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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 01:34 PM by MatrixProphet
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It also reminds me when atheists say that they adhere to no religion. In all reality their religion is based on the fact they do not believe in a god. They follow a set of very fanatical religious beliefs that random chance/natural science created the universe etc.. I find atheists to be some of the most religious people I have ever meet. Its Funny how the concept of the creator is always lurking in the background!


How interesting you should say so! I just did a new thread on "Why are Atheists...Atheists?" www.abovetopsecret.com... You might find it interesting!

As far as burning the NT. It is just a sign of the times. Regardless of how I feel about the NT, it is a very old book and one to be honored. Even if it was written by more than one God!


reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 01:37 PM by undo
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Well let's look at it logically. One of your complaints about "religious" people is they are so condemning of other people's behavior, yes? You don't see the irony of that statement or rationale? I remember one night while working in a pepsi factory (tough job), I had asked God to bring it to my attention every time I judged someone. By the time my shift was over, it was brought to my attention over and over again. It was at this point I realized that it was a good thing Jesus came along because in an universal sense, we are only dimly aware of a small portion of things we could improve upon as a race of sentients. Most of what we do that vibrates at a very loooooow level, passes our eyes without acknowledgement or understanding. Unfortunately, for the christian and those working on being better people than they were before, this has a level of difficultly associated with it that starts with ...

1) the realization that you're a complete idiot in a very intelligent universe
2) followed shortly by the realization that you ain't alone in your malady.

some people get tripped up at #2. it's the nature of only having part of the picture.



reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 01:43 PM by LockwithnoKey
Originally posted by undo
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Well let's look at it logically. One of your complaints about "religious" people is they are so condemning of other people's behavior, yes? You don't see the irony of that statement or rationale? I remember one night while working in a pepsi factory (tough job), I had asked God to bring it to my attention every time I judged someone. By the time my shift was over, it was brought to my attention over and over again. It was at this point I realized that it was a good thing Jesus came along because in an universal sense, we are only dimly aware of a small portion of things we could improve upon as a race of sentients. Most of what we do that vibrates at a very loooooow level, passes our eyes without acknowledgement or understanding. Unfortunately, for the christian and those working on being better people than they were before, this has a level of difficultly associated with it that starts with ...

1) the realization that you're a complete idiot in a very intelligent universe
2) followed shortly by the realization that you ain't alone in your malady.

some people get tripped up at #2. it's the nature of only having part of the picture.


Thanks for proving my point. I rest my case. You are assuming you are right because of your belief in Jesus and such. When in fact, you know nothing, only think and believe that you know "The Way" or "The Words" that are absolute truth. Arrogance in religion lives on...


reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 01:47 PM by undo
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it's only hypocracy if you happen to share the opinion.
you can't erase a person's beliefs by burning their history books.
it's not in the book anyway. it's in the individual.
it is, afterall, just a book, but it's a very special book to those
who love to read ancient history and learn how others deal with
their relationship with the supernatural and most specificially,
God. But no one actually NEEDS the book. It's just paper and ink.


reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 03:05 PM by chise61
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Millions of children have gained knowledge from Dr. Suess, as these books help many children learn to read and through this they gain knowledge.


Mein Kampf ? The knowledge that can be gained by that book is the knowledge of how twisted a person's mind can become. It's a possibilty that had more people read it certain events in history may have been avoided, or carried out to a lessor degree.


The bible ? The knowledge that people gain from the bible varies as greatly as people do. But i would say that even atheists gain knowledge from it, seems they gain the knowledge of what they disagree with and choose not to believe. Some people gain the knowledge of how they may (in thier opinion) live a better life.


The Koran ? I must admit that this is something that i have never read and have little knowledge of. I Think that like the bible it gives some people the knowledge of how they may (again in thier opinion) live a better life.


Yes it is my belief that all books pocess some innate sense of knowledge, in one form or another. People vary and what they take from a book varies, that is something that will never change. There will always be those that take the wrong meaning from a book, or take what was written to help people and turn it around to hurt people, but that is something that can not be changed.


You say that 99.99% of books are ok, but shouldn't we destroy the .01% that would sway people in the wrong direction. Who decides which .01 % of the books should be destroyed ? What if they decide that one of the books that need to be destroyed happens to be a book that you believe to be of great importance ?


Mein Kampf may have a bad effect on certain people, and lead them in the wrong direction, but it may also prevent another man like hitler from ever having so much power again. A book about ted bundy may give an already twisted mind some ideas, but it may save countless women from ever falling prey to someone like that.


We all take from books what we do, some of it good, some of it bad. But we all deserve and have the right to seek knowledge. As i stated earlier my issue was not with the fact that it was a bible that was burned, but the fact that any book was burned.


I am new here and i guess i'm still naive about certain things here. I see that i still haven't learned to tell the difference between a valid thread and a bait thread. I wrongly assumed that it was a thread about someone that was concerned about books being burned, but now see that it was just a bait thread to bash religion in one form or another. You people have fun, bye.


reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 03:18 PM by d11_m_na_c05
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My pleasure .. Todays piece will be moonlight sonata..

Fart squeek squeek braap..

Meh i tried..

But anyway whats so immature about recycling ? Do you hate the planet and want to see it destroyed ?
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