I wonder how many of those kids have already been auctioned off on the elite pedo market.

It will be interesting if they can only return, say 300 or so of them. Let's hope that is not the case.

Good for the fiat courts to finally save some face. But, that is all they are really doing here.

I agree that CPS had no right to take all children. I do not agree with children or person's under the age of 18 getting married. I do think that CPS does get the job done but not all the time. CPS is not perfect and sometimes screws things up, this case being a big time screw up.

I feel sorry for the children in this case. These poor children are the victims in this case. They have no say in how they are raised.

On another note, I would love to be able to live on a ranch or a piece of land the size of theirs! Away from civilization, such a this! LOL With friends, family, etc. Not necessarily in a religious sect but just away, where I could live as I wish and just visit town as needed. Away from traffic, etc. Wouldn't that be nice. I have always admired the Amish for that reason.

Cheers!

Originally posted by princessjade
I agree that CPS had no right to take all children. I do not agree with children or person's under the age of 18 getting married. I do think that CPS does get the job done but not all the time. CPS is not perfect and sometimes screws things up, this case being a big time screw up.

I feel sorry for the children in this case. These poor children are the victims in this case. They have no say in how they are raised.

On another note, I would love to be able to live on a ranch or a piece of land the size of theirs! Away from civilization, such a this! LOL With friends, family, etc. Not necessarily in a religious sect but just away, where I could live as I wish and just visit town as needed. Away from traffic, etc. Wouldn't that be nice. I have always admired the Amish for that reason.

Cheers!

I agree totally with living on 1700 acres of your own land in the middle of no where with family and friends I totally agree. Total freedom. Id have solar and wind power powering the house in fact I wouldnt even connect to the electrical grid. Id get my own water from underground well but get a whole house filtration. Grow my own food. I wouldnt go as far as to make my own clothes like them though

As far as the children being raised I agree I do feel bad for the children in all this but you know something I dont know of to many children who grow up in a perfect house. There is no perfect life there is just life and they will learn from these experiences and when they get older can make a decision on what they want to do. People have left the FLDS and moved on because they didnt agree with how they lived but the people who are there choose to be there and it is not up to me to tell them how to live or raise their children.

Personally I feel the minute they found out the phone call was a hoax it all should have been dropped and the children returned. I have a two year old. I can't imagine what would go through that little angels mind if someone raided our home and took her away to live with someone else. She wouldn't understand and would be a complete emotional wreck. Dare I say even have lasting mental damage from such a trauma. Oh man that just made me even more sad for those kids. Those poor babies being riped away from all that they have known.

Bastards! I hope they are held to the highest accountability and punished justly.

Evil penetrates. The children's homes were penetrated by evil. Evil said it was doing good by placing these kids in foster homes. I venture to say some of these people who wanted to house these kids had other motives than care. They wanted to penetrate children. I hope they did not get penetrated. They were so much safer at home. I hope lawsuits do justice.

I think that this is a matter of perspective. I have a 13 year old daughter and never could imagine her being married. That said, my grandmother was married at the age of twelve (he was 17) and they were happily married for forty something years until my grandfather passed. It was a different time, and they both already were handling responsibilities that would overwhelm kids today.

What is a acceptable age to get married?

I really don't know. This seems to be determined location, era, and social conditions. I don't think that there is a clear cut answer.

If they find evidence of sexual abuse, then throw the book at the offenders they deserve it but there seems to a lot of evidence indicating that the state acted too quickly in this case.

Consider the Mennonites. We have many around here. They are hard-working, self-disciplined, modest, self-sufficient, independent. They have a strong belief system. They have integrity. I suspect the "cultists" in question are much like this. People like this are alien and a threat to those in power.