Just a couple questions to the Freemasons concerning higher degrees., page 1

Originally posted by metatronscube
My second question: What are current Freemasons' opinion of the following quotes from Albert Pike, in Morals & Dogma?

*CRAP DELETED*

Please provide the page in Morals & Dogma "that" appears in.

Or link to the quote from this (or any other) free online version:

www.sacred-texts.com...

Thanks.

p.s. There are no "higher degrees."

Alright, I searched google for Morals and Dogma:

I then searched for Lucifer in in the book, I found results on page 73, 102, 321, 324.

I didn't find the passage mentioned of course, but numerous interesting references.

Also here:

books.google.com... 4A#PPA271,M1

That quote originated from Taxils Hoax during the late 1800's.

It is a famous anti-masonic quote that surprisingly is completely fictional. It is also a representation of how truely attempting to find the source can prove insightful.

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You mean there's no higher degree than the Third Degree, or Master Mason... Right?

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32nd, 33rd... Heck even 96th... It doesn't matter... The "highest" degree anyone will attain in Freemasonry is the Sublime Degree of Master Mason... The Third Degree... Everything else is just window dressing so to speak.

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Once you're a 3° Master Mason you're an equal to all other Masons. Now, within your own lodge, you could eventually become the Worshipful Master of that lodge for a year... annually elected, and one year terms, and you have to have served at least one (often two) years in a Warden's seat before becoming eligible to be elected WM of that lodge.

So those are things you can do in a regular "Blue Lodge".

If you get involved at the state level, you could eventually be elected or appointed to a position in the Grand Lodge of that state. The titles more or less reflect that of the individual lodges, where the Worshipful Master of the Grand Lodge is the Grand Master. Again, elected position, one year term.

Any 3° Master Mason can join other groups for further education, or fun & comradary. The Shrine, The York Rite, The Scottish Rite, The Grotto, and a few others. York Rite has, I think, 12 degrees. Scottish Rite has 32 normal degrees an an honorary 33rd awarded to people who've been really active in Masonry. (There's supposed to be a minimum of 8 years between getting the 32° and 33°, though I've seen evidence that some people in the past have gotten it in 4 years. And of course, some might never get it. Only a certain number are awarded every other year, IIRC.)

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Oh, and I suppose I should follow up my own post by adding that once having served a year as elected Worshipful Master of a lodge, or Grand Master of a Grand Lodge, one is given the honorary title of Past Master or Past Grand Master, respectively. PMs don't have any authority in the running of the lodge, but if they remain active, may serve as councilors to the sitting WM (if he needs help or advice in governing the lodge), or step in to cover the duties of an officer who is absent.

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For more information on the structure of Freemasonry, see this thread, and follow the link to the flow chart.

It explains how the structure of Freemasonry works, and also explains why 33° of the Scottish rite is no higher than a 3° master mason.

I noticed that the first few of your questions are the result of either you reading Jim Shaw's hoax or someone else reading it tell it to you like it was truth:

www.conspiracyarchive.com...

I am not a mason at all, but given what I know about Jim Shaw and reading his "account" I can guarantee it is false since a mason's religion is never an object of discussion at any masonic degree.

Originally posted by JoshNorton
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Oh, and I suppose I should follow up my own post by adding that once having served a year as elected Worshipful Master of a lodge, or Grand Master of a Grand Lodge, one is given the honorary title of Past Master or Past Grand Master, respectively. PMs don't have any authority in the running of the lodge, but if they remain active, may serve as councilors to the sitting WM (if he needs help or advice in governing the lodge), or step in to cover the duties of an officer who is absent.

Also, Past Masters are "members" of the state Grand Lodge and have a vote there. Normally a given Lodge gets three votes at Grand Lodge (one for each primary officer). Past Masters, however, also have individual votes at Grand Lodge Communications.

There's also a special degree ceremony, but of course I haven't seen it. I've heard it's a hoot.

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