An insurgency in Canada would make Iraq look like basic training. Largest country in the world, covered in mountains and trees, (ok we have a lot of
prairies and tundra too, but each of our provinces is bigger than most countries) and can be fiercely patriotic. Oh and the rest of the world loves
us.
Bring it...
Canada to become 51st state in 2010, page 5
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 11:54 PM by GradyPhilpott
reply to post by stumason
I concede that the US didn't defeat the British in the War of 1812, however, the trouncing of the British as New Orleans was the source of my confusion as so much is placed on the outcome of that war.
Also, recognize that it has been since 1967 that I formally studied American History.
Aside from a lapse of memory here and there, I think I do pretty well.
I concede that the US didn't defeat the British in the War of 1812, however, the trouncing of the British as New Orleans was the source of my confusion as so much is placed on the outcome of that war.
Also, recognize that it has been since 1967 that I formally studied American History.
Aside from a lapse of memory here and there, I think I do pretty well.
reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 02:33 AM by malcr
Originally posted by Tuebor
I posted a reply in another
thread
but I think it applies here too.
No conspiracy. I think it just makes sense. The US military will already be in BC for the Vancouver 2010 Olympics for security with the consent of Ottawa. As far the US requesting maps of major cities in Canada, they may need transportation details (airports, trains, etc...) I wouldn't get too worked up. THe US already has a deal for Canada's Alberta oil fields and Coors already owns Molson, so what else is there!!
Why on earth do they need to use the Olympics for cover? Do you really think you need thousands of people involved in the decision. If it was remotely possible then you are talking about a room full of folks who could meet at anytime anywhere, the UN for example!. It would take far far longer than the duration of the Olympics to work out all the details.
Sorry but this theory is as likely as the other current theory about giant spiders. Both as improbable as each other although the spider one is also physically impossible.
Come to think of it is the date April 1st????
) reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 03:35 AM by violet
There was a story in the Vancouver newspaper today about all the high tech security we'll be getting around the city. Largest security operation in
Canadian History. Dubbed "The Surveillance Games" by one expert.
I don't see how this correlates with a US takeover though!
Read about all the security here:
Source
I'm not really looking forward to living in a Host city, although it will be cool to be able to go to an event or two.
I don't see how this correlates with a US takeover though!
Read about all the security here:
Source
I'm not really looking forward to living in a Host city, although it will be cool to be able to go to an event or two.
reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 06:31 AM by donwhite
reply to post by anusualusa
Maybe, but try this on.
Why you ask, would the peace-loving good neighbor type Americans ever want to occupy our cold and largely snowbound neighbor, Canada?
W A T E R!
It would not be all that hard to run pipelines from the Great Bear Lake and Great Slave Lake down to Los Angeles and Phoenix! Viola! Two of our major water shortfall cities would be supplied with more than enough water to get us into Century22. By that time we will have nuclear powered desalinization plants ready to go on-line.
Some Americans are so wrought up in our plainly visible GREATNESS and smug over our very own version of DEMOCRACY that we have actually given much thought to ALLOWING Canada to join us! Yup, for you history buffs, look here what we said to the Canucks in 1775:
And this last bit of trivia but this one for Americans. In the War of 1812, acting under the strongest expectations the Canadians would rush to join the US in its war against Great Britain, we invaded Canada in 1813. But instead of swooning the Canadians rebuffed the US forces. This angered the US Army so it did the Christian thing and burned the capital of Canada, then called YORK which today is known as Toronto. (Today's capital of Canada is of course Ottawa).
In 1814, The British giving tit for tat burned our own capital city, Washington DC. Fortunately for the US, the Brits were too busy engaging with Napoleon to make a full scale effort over here, otherwise we might be singing "God Save the Queen" at baseball games. Thus was won what is sometimes called the Second War of Independence.
Beer. I was introduced to Canadian beer long ago when stationed at Loring AFB, Limestone, ME, just across the border from the lovely but smallish city of Edmundsonton, in New Brunswick, where we AF-types would retreat to drink Moosehead, unavailable at the State of Maine liquor stores.
Quebeckers are still smarting from the whipping give them by General Wolfe on the Plains of Abraham (1759) and can’t decide whether to go it alone or not. Typically French, they must be the English speaking Canadians cross to bear. In 2006, hoping to lay the issue to rest, the Canadian House of Commons passed a symbolic motion recognizing the "Québécois as a nation within Canada."
[edit on 05/05/2008 by donwhite]
Also, the U.S. could annex Canada at any time if it so desired. It doesn't need to because Canada is its bitch. Although Canada has been trying to take over the U.S. with its army of comedians who have become U.S. celebrities.
I predict all Canadian-American celebrities ill congregate at the Aspen Comedy Festival and use their quirky wit to quipnotize the American populace.
Maybe, but try this on.
Why you ask, would the peace-loving good neighbor type Americans ever want to occupy our cold and largely snowbound neighbor, Canada?
W A T E R!
It would not be all that hard to run pipelines from the Great Bear Lake and Great Slave Lake down to Los Angeles and Phoenix! Viola! Two of our major water shortfall cities would be supplied with more than enough water to get us into Century22. By that time we will have nuclear powered desalinization plants ready to go on-line.
Some Americans are so wrought up in our plainly visible GREATNESS and smug over our very own version of DEMOCRACY that we have actually given much thought to ALLOWING Canada to join us! Yup, for you history buffs, look here what we said to the Canucks in 1775:
Articles of Confederation,
Article XI.
Canada acceding to this confederation, and adjoining in the measures of the United States, shall be admitted into, and entitled to all the advantages of this Union; but no other colony shall be admitted into the same, unless such admission be agreed to by nine States.
[It is also noteworthy that the name United States of America was first employed in the Articles. See]
Article I: The Stile of this Confederacy shall be "The United States of America." www.yale.edu...
And this last bit of trivia but this one for Americans. In the War of 1812, acting under the strongest expectations the Canadians would rush to join the US in its war against Great Britain, we invaded Canada in 1813. But instead of swooning the Canadians rebuffed the US forces. This angered the US Army so it did the Christian thing and burned the capital of Canada, then called YORK which today is known as Toronto. (Today's capital of Canada is of course Ottawa).
In 1814, The British giving tit for tat burned our own capital city, Washington DC. Fortunately for the US, the Brits were too busy engaging with Napoleon to make a full scale effort over here, otherwise we might be singing "God Save the Queen" at baseball games. Thus was won what is sometimes called the Second War of Independence.
Beer. I was introduced to Canadian beer long ago when stationed at Loring AFB, Limestone, ME, just across the border from the lovely but smallish city of Edmundsonton, in New Brunswick, where we AF-types would retreat to drink Moosehead, unavailable at the State of Maine liquor stores.
Quebeckers are still smarting from the whipping give them by General Wolfe on the Plains of Abraham (1759) and can’t decide whether to go it alone or not. Typically French, they must be the English speaking Canadians cross to bear. In 2006, hoping to lay the issue to rest, the Canadian House of Commons passed a symbolic motion recognizing the "Québécois as a nation within Canada."
[edit on 05/05/2008 by donwhite]
reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 06:47 AM by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
reply to post by Tuebor
This is merely a tip of the iceburg, although it is 'undisclosed' a small (small in comparison to a countries wealth, but by no means small!!) percentage of the countries wealth is taken, they tax the taxers!! lol, i found this hilarious. This , I am almost certain, is what happens to Australia and Canada, both they're prime ministers act just like ours, all decisions made go through the queen. Now, America is a different story.
[edit on 23-5-2008 by ElectroMagnetic Multivers]
This is merely a tip of the iceburg, although it is 'undisclosed' a small (small in comparison to a countries wealth, but by no means small!!) percentage of the countries wealth is taken, they tax the taxers!! lol, i found this hilarious. This , I am almost certain, is what happens to Australia and Canada, both they're prime ministers act just like ours, all decisions made go through the queen. Now, America is a different story.
[edit on 23-5-2008 by ElectroMagnetic Multivers]
reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 07:38 AM by donwhite
reply to post by bronco73
Modesty will get you everywhere!
But look here. Canada will not be content with but TWO senators. Larger in square miles, blessed with abundant (and unused) W A T E R, afflicted with endless oil sands into which to suck out our wealth, Canada nevertheless has a lot a appeal to ever-expansive Americans.
It is beginning to look as if our near 200 years long domination of the Western Hemisphere south of the Rio Grande is ending. (Known as the Río Bravo del Norte in Mexico). Between a revitalized Mexico, a steadfast Cuba and a strident Venezuela not to mention Peru and Chile, the old time suzerainty we exercised since James Monroe was president, has run its course. What with the “commie” threat to the world now gone since 1989, there are few “enemies” worthy of our mighty armed forces.
I aver the US has already reached a secret accommodation with Osama bin Laden, which explains why he is able to remain free. Q. If you go to your bank and withdraw from your account - assuming the money is there - $10,001 in cash, how long do you think it will be before the FBI comes to your door? And we can't find ObL in 7 years? Get Lost!
With an unspecified number of updated KH12s encircling the Earth and almost limitless numbers of the $35 m. per copy Predators whizzing about, how long can the “Worlds Most Wanted” man stay free but for the subtle aid of his would-be captors?
Which brings me back to Canada. 10 provinces and 3 territories. Provinces: Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador,, Nova Scotia,, Ontario, Prince Edward Island, Quebec, Saskatchewan. Territories: Northwest Territories Nunavut and Yukon Territory.
Perhaps we could amend the US Con to allow 2 senators from each province and 1 from each territory? The 34 million Canadians would be entitled to about 65 Representatives, which would raise the current 435 to an even 500. Wow! Chairs in the aisles and clipboards in the laps. But Sweet Jesus! Think of the EARMARKS!
It's like I tell the ladies, it's not the size of the weapon, it's the fury of the attack!
Modesty will get you everywhere!
But look here. Canada will not be content with but TWO senators. Larger in square miles, blessed with abundant (and unused) W A T E R, afflicted with endless oil sands into which to suck out our wealth, Canada nevertheless has a lot a appeal to ever-expansive Americans.
It is beginning to look as if our near 200 years long domination of the Western Hemisphere south of the Rio Grande is ending. (Known as the Río Bravo del Norte in Mexico). Between a revitalized Mexico, a steadfast Cuba and a strident Venezuela not to mention Peru and Chile, the old time suzerainty we exercised since James Monroe was president, has run its course. What with the “commie” threat to the world now gone since 1989, there are few “enemies” worthy of our mighty armed forces.
I aver the US has already reached a secret accommodation with Osama bin Laden, which explains why he is able to remain free. Q. If you go to your bank and withdraw from your account - assuming the money is there - $10,001 in cash, how long do you think it will be before the FBI comes to your door? And we can't find ObL in 7 years? Get Lost!
With an unspecified number of updated KH12s encircling the Earth and almost limitless numbers of the $35 m. per copy Predators whizzing about, how long can the “Worlds Most Wanted” man stay free but for the subtle aid of his would-be captors?
Which brings me back to Canada. 10 provinces and 3 territories. Provinces: Alberta, British Columbia, Manitoba, New Brunswick, Newfoundland and Labrador,, Nova Scotia,, Ontario, Prince Edward Island, Quebec, Saskatchewan. Territories: Northwest Territories Nunavut and Yukon Territory.
Perhaps we could amend the US Con to allow 2 senators from each province and 1 from each territory? The 34 million Canadians would be entitled to about 65 Representatives, which would raise the current 435 to an even 500. Wow! Chairs in the aisles and clipboards in the laps. But Sweet Jesus! Think of the EARMARKS!
reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 07:43 AM by ElectroMagnetic Multivers
reply to post by stumason
Hey, just reading your replies, was wondering if you or anyone else for that matter, know anything on the first war of independence. I was taught about this in school (England) and never really questioned it, but a few years ago, I found a number of references which claimed that although America 'won' the first war of independence, reperations were to be paid to England, or 'Britain' for the cost of the war, not to mention loans, that had been used to fund AMERICA's side of the war.
Taxes were also incurred on America, which was then deligated to it's population under the guise of various taxes, as far as I know this hasn't ceased, although the 'original' treaty with England that all this was documented on (Declaration of Independence) was never disclosed to the people and was kept in the upper eschelons of the government.
From what I understand, America has been mason controlled since the birh of america, just over 2 centuries ago. If this is true, I really don't see how America WON, apart from the fact that they said they won and England said nothing. It also raises questions as to Englands intent, if England had offered this treaty and America agreed, it sounds like either they were over a barrel, or 'independence' was just a staged cou as it was seen as an inevitability. America was far to big for England to police, it would only grow in its size, scope and self sustainability, the more I think the more it just seems to be an intelligent move and one that could've well been discussed back then.
Sorry if this is slightly off topic, just seems to me as a good possibility and it could explain some of the political intent behind the OP.
Hey, just reading your replies, was wondering if you or anyone else for that matter, know anything on the first war of independence. I was taught about this in school (England) and never really questioned it, but a few years ago, I found a number of references which claimed that although America 'won' the first war of independence, reperations were to be paid to England, or 'Britain' for the cost of the war, not to mention loans, that had been used to fund AMERICA's side of the war.
Taxes were also incurred on America, which was then deligated to it's population under the guise of various taxes, as far as I know this hasn't ceased, although the 'original' treaty with England that all this was documented on (Declaration of Independence) was never disclosed to the people and was kept in the upper eschelons of the government.
From what I understand, America has been mason controlled since the birh of america, just over 2 centuries ago. If this is true, I really don't see how America WON, apart from the fact that they said they won and England said nothing. It also raises questions as to Englands intent, if England had offered this treaty and America agreed, it sounds like either they were over a barrel, or 'independence' was just a staged cou as it was seen as an inevitability. America was far to big for England to police, it would only grow in its size, scope and self sustainability, the more I think the more it just seems to be an intelligent move and one that could've well been discussed back then.
Sorry if this is slightly off topic, just seems to me as a good possibility and it could explain some of the political intent behind the OP.
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