Thanks, BH! I'm finding videos now, man how do we weed through the BS?

As for Bush - man that one is plastered all over the place, it's just so sad. I think he has a tummy ache

those are some very, very good reasons milady. I have my own 5 reasons as to why I wont vote for him. But primarily I'm not voting for him because he's a closet Muslim.

frankly. Americans have had two terms of failed extreme rightwing ideology and warmongering from the current Republican administration, I doubt they're going to elect another Republican President for some time

Actually, picking Obama over Clinton probably solidified McCain's victory.
Polls said Kerry had it in the bag too...look how well that happened....

In the south, and post 9/11, there is simply NO way Obama is going to be elected (and it isn't due to any racial discrimination...it's more of a religious discrimination issue, and of course, the name). I'm no big fan of Clinton either, to be sure, but the Democrats have (in my opinion) just basically handed the presidency to the Republicans....

His statement that he wasn't a Muslim, yet lived in a Muslim country and attended a Muslim school isn't going to fly with educated southerners, and the name alone will make him unelectable with uneducated ones...

If you think that the gay-marriage bit got the closet republicans out in droves last time to go to the polls, it's nothing compared to the threat of a perceived Muslim possibly becoming president (especially when his name is one-letter off of our most wanted man)! Superficial? Of course. Realistic? You bet.

Add to this the fact that he's even more flip-floppy and wishy-washy than Kerry (and doesn't appear to have a stand on ANY side of ANYTHING), and you've got someone who'll make a good showing at the primaries, where he's in like company...but who'll get trounced in the general election....

Hey, don't look at me....I'm probably writing in Ron Paul's name on the ballot!

Originally posted by jedimiller
...primarily I'm not voting for him because he's a closet Muslim.

Oh. That's nice.

Unfortunately, a choice between Obama and McCain and I will not be voting at all. Heh, I'll be "present".

Don't do THAT!!! Everyone should vote...but instead of not voting, WRITE IN the candidate you prefer! At least send a message, and exercise your right for your voice to be heard...rather than staying home....

Originally posted by jedimiller
...primarily I'm not voting for him because he's a closet Muslim.


Oh. That's nice.

No, it isn't nice, but it's indicative of the overall sentiment many feel towards Muslims or those who are even perceived to be Muslim. I've lived in the Middle East (Saudi Arabia to be specific). Most Muslims are just like us, they want peace, to go to work, raise their kids, etc. But, the vocal minority get all the press, and commit heinous acts of cowardly terrorism, while the majority stays silent, in effect serving as quiet acceptance/approval in the eyes of many Americans. Is it right? No. Is it reality? Yes. It's as simple as that. Votes aren't about right or wrong, they are about who the public "perceives" to represent their interests.

BTW: I don't feel Barack is a Muslim at all, but that won't mean a damn thing to anyone else at the polls. While I do favor diplomacy over military action, it's kind of hard to do diplomacy in a region where the US has constantly flipped sides and double-dealed (i.e. Iraq/Iran anyone?), so past actions pretty much make diplomacy in that region near impossible without being Monty Haul...and that approach is likewise doomed to failure. The only way we'll ever succeed in ANY policy in that region is if we wean off our oil dependence, and in turn, decrease the economic power of the region. Only THEN, will we have anything to bring to the table instead of military threats.



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Originally posted by Sestias

Yes, that's exactly why a senator or congressperson would vote "present." Congress has a way of attaching all sorts of riders and amendments to otherwise worthwhile bills, riders that have nothing to do with the original bills. It's their way of sneaking pork or very unpopular bills in with the good ones. A senator might not want to vote "nay" on the meat of the bill, but is unable to give it an unqualified "yea" either. Obama explains this in his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

But, that's the thing.... He didn't agree with the bill at all. He spoke out against it. Voting a Nay would of done the same....

So if your against the Bill and you vote "Present" wouldn't that mean you agree with the sneaking pork than disagree?

Originally posted by jetxnet
Not too mention, Obama want to pass the Global Poverty Act. America can't afford it, not even close.

Ahh yes, isn't socialism wonderful. Socialists like Obama want to tax Americans and send the money to support homeless or starving people in Africa. Nevermind the fact we have millions of homeless people here in our own country, and hundreds of thousand of starving.

It's as bad as how Bushco taxes us to build new bridges in Iraq, while our own bridges (that one that fell down) are falling apart here at home!

Who are these politicians loyal to again? The country they are supposed to represent, or the rest of the world? World first, America second, I guess.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by InsiderInfo]