Burma: We'd rather let people die than allow U.S. aid, page 3
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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 09:30 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by wytworm



It isn't just the last eight years..We are being blamed for everthing thats wrong with this world since the Johnson years. Your right though, we are bankrupt when it comes to aid. Its a lousy way to situational awarness.
Zindo


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 09:36 PM by khunmoon
reply to post by jpm1602



Your argument --no oil-- and not yours alone, is a little weary at this point of time where we have had focus on Burma since September last year.

Burma/Maynmar has some of the biggest/largest gas reserves on this planet.

The Companies They Keep in Burma


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 09:47 PM by garyo1954
reply to post by masqua



Excellent point! So we should send the aide through a third party nation like an anonymous donation.

Oops. Here's the article link for Anonymous ATS

Source



The new sanctions prevent U.S. humanitarian organizations and individuals from donating money directly to causes within impoverished Myanmar. U.S. aid organizations, such as the American Red Cross, found they could provide only supplies—not personnel or money—to the relief effort under the sanctions rules. While the U.S. corporate media have carried hundreds of reports arrogantly lecturing Myanmar on what is not being done, they are not even mentioning the impact of the new U.S. sanctions that were imposed as the storm barreled toward the country.





[edit on 21-5-2008 by garyo1954]


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 10:08 PM by khunmoon
reply to post by Anonymous ATS



I think it might be this article you're refering to.

www.globalresearch.ca...

Burma (which changed its name to Myanmar in 1989) was a colony of British imperialism for over 60 years. In fact the commercial production of oil in Myanmar dates back to 1871 when British colonialists set up the Rangoon Oil Company.

Since formal independence in 1948, different imperialist powers have exploited the country’s people and plundered its resources. It is beyond the scope of this article to review this history. But an example of imperialist control and development of Myanmar’s energy resources provides a picture of the country’s relationship to the world capitalist system.

Myanmar has the world's tenth largest gas reserves. It has been producing natural gas since the 1970s. Today, gas exports are Myanmar's most important source of national income.

In the 1990s Myanmar granted gas concessions to foreign companies from France and Great Britain. Later Texaco and Unocal (now absorbed into ChevronTexaco) gained rights to Myanmar’s gas as well.

In 2005 other countries in the region, including China, Thailand, and South Korea invested in Myanmar’s oil and gas industry.

What did this mean for the masses of people in Myanmar?

In 1996 a human rights suit was filed against the American-based Unocal Corp. A group of villagers accused Unocal of using forced labor conscripted by Myanmar soldiers. Villagers were raped, murdered, and brutally relocated during the construction of a $1.2 billion gas pipeline to Thailand, started in 1990.

The suit, which Unocal settled in 2004, brought to light the kind of horrible crimes that were being committed by a consortium of foreign companies, including Unocal, all of which were receiving support and protection from the military regime.

One woman testified how soldiers came to her home, shot her husband, and killed her baby. Other villagers recounted how their neighbors were executed because they refused to leave the area Unocal wanted. Two girls said soldiers raped them at knifepoint (The Nation, June 30, 2003). Human Rights Watch interviewed hundreds of villagers who were driven from their homes and farms, many forced to work at gunpoint and beaten by guards.

The UN issued warnings of serious human rights abuses in 1995. After such embarrassing evidence came out, Texaco left the country in 1997. But Unocal retained 28 percent interest in the pipeline.


Good reading to deny ignorance.


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 10:30 PM by garyo1954
reply to post by khunmoon



Another oops....I should have read further khunmoon.

Also from the source posted earlier, I should add:


The U.S. government expresses outrage that Myanmar, while it accepts aid, will not allow foreign personnel to oversee its distribution. The government-run newspaper New Light of Myanmar on May 9 explained why this is so: “The Pentagon is desperate to station their military bases in our country.”


Shock doctrine


Many countries even in the midst of a disaster fear U.S. and Western assistance because it so often comes with strings attached, including onerous debt conditions and demands to reorganize their economy and privatize nationally owned resources.



reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 10:40 PM by ZindoDoone
reply to post by khunmoon



What that article misleads us about is the fact that Burma would not let any corporate workers into the fields except those used for logistics and supervision of transportation. All other employment was controlled by the Hunta so they could maintain controll of the oil. Chevron-Texaco/Shell settled so they could get they're US citizens out of Myanmar because they where being held hostage by the Military. The companies themselves had no controll over the hiring and slavery problems. Any attempts to rectify the problems where rebuffed by the government in Myanmar.

Zindo


[edit on 5/21/2008 by ZindoDoone]


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 10:52 PM by BlasteR
reply to post by MacSen191



IMO the reason they didn't help their own people first is because their first priority is to try and make the rest of the world, including the U.S., think that they have everything under control and that their government is completely fine.

That's the entire reason for this fake "walkthrough" I included in my last post. This cyclone just killed all these people and caused all this destruction, yet the burmese somehow set up this immaculately clean and well-organised relief effort? NO. That's what they want the rest of the world to think. That was the entire reason for that video being made.

They want noone to think their government (under military rule since 1962) is somehow less capable and less powerful and has less influence than it did before because of the cyclone. They are SO paranoid about the U.S. and other outside countries because this military-ruled dictatorship has been self-isolated from the rest of the world for so long (just like North Korea).

Then you have what the UN calculates to be over a million people homeless, untold numbers of humans suffering and dying while this country tells the rest of the world "Move along. We don't trust you".

Kind of makes you wanna puke. Untold numbers of people are going to suffer and die because of a government that is unwilling to put human lives first.

-ChriS


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 11:00 PM by khunmoon
Just wanna post this gem of truth from the article previous linked.
www.globalresearch.ca...

The reality is: The US criticism of the Myanmar government has nothing to do with concern for the victims of the cyclone. It has everything to do with cold calculations about how to use this disaster to further U.S. interests—to pry open the country, to weaken the military regime, and to create more favorable conditions for a full-out regime change. The U.S. wants to bring to power a government in Myanmar that more fully serves U.S. economic and political interests, including in relationship to U.S. contention with other capitalist powers. To understand this, we need to first of all look at the geostrategic interests the U.S. is pursuing in Myanmar.

Three great regions of Asia come together where Myanmar sits on the planet—China in the north, Southeast Asia in the south, and India in the west. Looking at a map, it becomes clear how Myanmar is key to establishing land-links between Central Asia in the west, Japan in the east and Russia in the north.

Off the coast of Myanmar is the Strait of Malacca. This waterway between Malaysia and Indonesia is one of the world’s most strategic water passages. It links the Indian and Pacific Oceans and is the shortest sea route between the Persian Gulf and China. Each and every day, supertankers carrying more than 12 million barrels of oil pass through this strait. More than 80% of all China's oil imports are shipped through this waterway.


US interest in the region is strategic, more than about energy.
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