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Mysterious giants inhabit Eurasian lakes

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posted on May, 21 2008 @ 03:57 PM
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Issik Kul is a remote deep-water lake located in the northern Tian Shan Mountains, in the Transiliysk Ala Tau area of Kyrgyzstan (Central Asia). The name means “warm water”; the lake is surrounded by snow-capped peaks but it never freezes.


According to a well-informed Ukrainian writer V. Krapiva, in the late 1930s a Russian researcher of the paranormal, Grabovsky conducted an interview with a reluctant witness. That man and his friends had explored a cave near the Issik Kul Lake, where they discovered three human skeletons, each more than three meters tall. The skeletons were adorned with decorations that looked like bats (flying mammals) made from silver. The men became scared out of their wits and kept silent about their discovery for many long years. They did melt the silver decorations, but a small piece had been saved. Soviet scientists who had studied the piece said they could not determine its age. Interestingly, a Kyrgyz legend does mention a submerged city in the lake. The city’s ruler, King Ossounes, was a creature with "long asinine ears". The lake itself has been known to experience paranormal phenomena.

The earliest mention of similar gigantic beings dates back to early 1900's. Several boys in Georgia (at the time, part of the Russian Empire) discovered a cave inside a mountain, full of humanoid skeletons. Each skeleton was about three meters tall. To get to the cave, the boys had to dive into a lake. George Papashvili and his wife recall the incident a book published in New York in 1925, St. Martin's Press (Anything can happen). In 1953, Jose Ferrer played the Georgian immigrant, George Papashvili whose book is a classic story of an immigrant adjusting to life in the United States.

Many years later a much more sinister incident took place in the Soviet Union. Russian paranormal phenomena magazine ANOMALIYA (issue #4, 1992) contained an article written by Mark Shteynberg, a Soviet veteran of the Afghan war. He is an author of several books; an expert on Russia's military, who now resides in the United States. In the summer of 1982, Mark Shteynberg, along with Lt. Colonel Gennady Zverev, actively conducted periodic training of the reconnaissance divers ("frogmen") of the Turkistan and Central Asian military regions. The training exercises had been taking place at the Issik Kul Lake.

According to media reports, this is where powerful but not too accurate Soviet torpedoes, underwater missiles, were tested during the Soviet times. Today, in Kyrgyzstan, reportedly, there is still a Russian naval long-distance communications center at the Issik-Kul Lake.

But in 1982 (a memorable year in the history of Soviet ufology) Major-General V. Demyanko, commander of the Military Diver Service of the Engineer Forces of the Ministry of Defense, USSR arrived unexpectedly and hastily to inform the local officers of an extraordinary event that had occurred during similar training exercises in the Trans-Baikal and West Siberian military regions. During their military training dives, Soviet frogmen had encountered mysterious underwater "swimmers", very humanoid beings of enormous size (almost three meters tall). The "swimmers” wore tight-fitting silvery suits, despite the icy-cold water temperatures. At the depth of fifty meters, these "swimmers" had neither scuba diving equipment (“aqualungs”), nor any other equipment; only sphere-like helmets concealing their heads.

Shteynberg stated that the local military commanders in Siberia decided to capture one of the creatures. With that purpose in mind, a special group of seven divers, under the command of an officer, had been dispatched. As the frogmen tried to cover the creature with a net, the entire team was propelled out of the deep waters to the surface by a powerful force. Because autonomous equipment of the frogmen does not allow surfacing from such depths without strict adherence to the process of decompression stops, all of the members of the ill-fated expedition were stricken by aeroembolism, or the Caisson disease. The only remedial treatment available consisted of an immediate confinement under decompression conditions in a pressure chamber. They had several such pressure chambers in the military region, but only one in working condition. It could contain no more than two persons.

Those local commanders had forced four frogmen into the chamber. As a result, three of them (including the CO of the group) perished, and the rest became invalids. The major general was dispatched, and flew to the Issik Kul to warn the local military against similar attempts to capture any "swimmers". Although the Issik Kul Lake is more shallow that the Baikal Lake, the depth of the former was sufficient to contain similar mysterious creatures. The Soviet high command was aware of "swimmers" lurking in the depths; an order was issued against the capture. Perhaps they knew much more about the Issik Kul underwater inhabitants than the independent researcher Grabovsky.
A short time later, the staff headquarters of the Turkmenistan military region had received an order from the Commander-in-Chief of the Land Forces. The order consisted of a detailed analysis of the Baikal Lake events and ensuing reprimands. It was supplemented by an information bulletin from the headquarters of the Engineer Forces of the Ministry of Defense, USSR. The bulletin listed numerous deep-water lakes where there had been registered sightings of anomalous phenomena: appearances of underwater creatures analogous to the Baikal type, descent and ascent of gigantic discs and spheres, powerful luminescence emanating from the deep, etc.




posted on May, 21 2008 @ 03:58 PM
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Mikhail Demidenko, well-known Russian writer, read Shteynberg’s account in 1992, and recalled that while on an assignment from the Union of Writers in 1986 in Irkutsk (Siberia), he spent some time at the Baikal Lake. There he learned from local fishermen that some years before, they observed how Soviet frogmen were propelled out from the lake to ten-fifteen meters up over the water. The locals never found out why the military behaved in that manner.

Demidenko thought it was the same episode, and contacted his sources in the highest echelons of the Russian Army to no avail But finally the writer did speak with a colonel from the Chief Logistics Directorate who tried to help; Demidenko found out from him later that such an order would be kept in special archives that require top clearance. He died in 2003, a true humanitarian who hated totalitarianism of any hue; a tolerant man who survived the Nazi occupation and kept memories of Nazi atrocities against Soviet Jews; as a young man Demidenko (upon graduation frm a military college) became a translator and interpreter of Chinese.

He was dispatched by the General Staff of the Soviet Army to Red China’s Air Force HQ; and also served in North Korea during the war. Later, Demidenko traveled through China to Western Tibet; and when he became a well-known author and scriptwriter, had visited a number of countries in Southeast Asia, and Europe. He collected materials to write fascinating books, including his last: Po sledam SS v Tibet (Following the SS trail into Tibet), 1999.

Tibet

In 1954 Demidenko was accompanying high-ranking Beijing and Soviet military commanders as they inspected Red Chinese troops in Xinjiang Province (Uygur Autonomous Region), and Western Tibet, where the group spent a night in a Lamaist monastery. There, Demidenko met an old monk, who was a Russian speaking Mongol. Among many fascinating subjects, the monk told him of the caves in the Tibetan mountains where giants that are three meters tall remain in an anesthesia-induced sleep; one day they can wake-up. Later, Demidenko heard stories that the Red Chinese gutted one of such sacred caves, removed from there “sleeping amphibian giants” and publicly hanged them. As Demdenko’s well-researched book (he had great connections in Asia, East Germany, Russian armed forces…) demonstrates, the occult-worshipping Nazis were quite aware of the giants, and legends of underground cities of Tibet. That is why Hitler sent his SS expeditions to Tibet, as his was certain that these giants-demigods would confirm his theories…but there is more information regarding the giants in his book; and a wealth of other historical information about Hitler’s expeditions, archives, and mysterious events


The Borisoglebsk Giant

A sharp increase in UFO activity in 1978 had forced the USSR Academy of Sciences to agree to a research program for anomalous atmospheric phenomena. The code name for this program was SETKA-AN (Academy of Sciences Net, or AS-NET). The first act of the SETKA-AN resulted in official sanction of "anomalous atmospheric phenomena" as a descriptive term instead of the forbidden "UFO." The censorship restrictions on the UFO subject were removed in 1989. The Ministry of Defense embarked on a similar program, under the name of SETKA-MO (Ministerstva Oboroni Set’). Eduard A. Yermilov, a distinguished Russian scientist in the prestigious Radio-Physics Science Research Institute had been involved with the SETKA ( aka Galaktika-AN) program, and investigated the 1982 case that very likely involved a similar humanoid “giant”…

Borisoglebsk, located in the Voronezh region, is one of the most active areas of UFO sightings, according to A. Plaksin, an expert with the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation, and a former leading participant of the SETKA program. A special military commission was created in the 1980s specifically to study the UFOs in the area (the objects sighted and reported by military observers varied in size from a tennis ball to two hundred meters long, and maneuvered at speeds ranging from 0 to 600 km/hr at altitudes from 0 to 20 km).


Yermilov (according to a famous Russian paranormal phenomena researcher Mikhail Gershtein, who has many SETKA documents) reported that on May 26 of 1982, during the loss of communications with a MIG-21 aircraft and its subsequent demise a UFO was sighted at the height of 1500 meters. A search and recovery operation was organized. On May 27, the search team (comprised of Junior Sergeant A. A. Panyukov and Private A. Yu. Kunin) while in the Povorino area forest, walked into a clearing where they observed a humanoid entity. It was no less than 3.5 meters tall, dressed in a silvery, with greenish hues, clothing. After the entity fled the site of the incident, the eyewitnesses observed an explosion behind the trees and flight of a luminescent object that left a slightly luminescent trail; the object disappeared behind the trees.


The “silvery ones”.


Komsomol’skaya Pravda , a popular Russian newspaper, carried an article by A. Pavlov in its December 1st, 2000 issue. The reported described a close relationship that had developed between the local Russian military and UFO researchers (among the latter, Dr. Dvuzhilni, famous for research of the Dalnegorsk Crash case). Among the documents provided by the commander of the Far Eastern Air Defense District to local ufologists was one that mentioned a most interesting case from 1990. A military brigade at the Timofeyevka settlement was dispatched due to an alarm raised by a sentry who fired a warning shot. He observed two beings, clad in silvery overalls; they were about two and a half meters tall; they came from a nearby oak grove. Right after the warning shot, the “silvery ones” immediately ran back. The soil was wet because a recent rain, and the Russian counterintelligence officers who came to the site, discovered large footprints of huge, shapeless “feet”.

More “swimmers”

B. Borovikov hunted Black Sea sharks for many years. Then something happened that put an end to his hobby. Diving in the Anapa area, he descended to the depth of eight meters. He saw gigantic beings rising up from below. They were milky-white, but with humanoid faces, and something like fish tails. The creature in front of its companions noticed Borovikov, and stopped. It had giant bulging eyes, similar to some vague glasses. The other two joined it. The first one waved her hand (it was definitely a hand with membranes) towards the diver. All of them approached Borokivov, and stopped at a short distance. Then they turned around, and swam away. Borovikov's experience was published in XX vek: khronika neobjasnimogo or “XXth century: a chronicle of the unexplained (Moscow, 1996).

D. Povaliyayev was hand gliding over Kavgolov (Leningrad area) in the early 1990's. There are lakes, and in one of them the skydiver noticed three gigantic "fish". He descended, and was able to discern "swimmers" in silvery costumes. He mentioned the episode in his book Letuchi Gollandets or “Flying Dutchman” (1995). There have been many UFO sightings in the area.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 04:34 PM
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Just a quick question if I may, do you have a source for these stories ?

The reason I ask is that if they are web based than it is usual to provide a link to the source so people can read the whole content.

Regards



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 04:49 PM
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sorry i got it here www.google.com...



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 06:09 PM
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That was an extremely interesting read and I'm surprised I'd never heard of this before. Thank you for bringing this interesting article to ATS' attention. If I wasn't browsing ATS from my iPod I would offer more commentary but its a difficult process with this thing haha. You have earned a star good sir.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 06:39 PM
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Interesting stuff...sounds like the same place down in Au where people have seen ufos coming in and out of a lake.



posted on May, 21 2008 @ 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by fatdad
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sorry i got it here www.google.com...



Thank you fatdad, the direct link to the articles are HERE and HERE.

If you are direct quoting or cutting and pasting it is better to put it in the "Content from external source" box.

You can do this by clicking the "EX" icon second from the left in the create new thread or post screen and then entering the text.

The reason this is better is that people can easily see that the content is not authored by the OP.

Don't worry we all have to learn if you have any problems with this or general formatting feel free to U2U me, I hope this helps.



posted on May, 22 2008 @ 01:55 AM
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Interesting...

The Issyk Kul area is very close to the supposed site of a UFO crash that can be read about here: UFO Crashes in 1991 and may still be there

Also, this is probably nothing more than a coincidence, but I looked it up on Google Earth and images of the area have some weird camera artifacts in them:






Doing a bit more Google research also reveals that there is in fact archaeological evidence of an "advanced" ancient civilization buried underneath the surface of the lake:


Some artifacts are stunning. A 2,500 year-old ritual bronze cauldron was found on the bottom of the lake. The subtlety of its craftsmanship is amazing. Such excellent quality of joining details together can be presently obtained by metalwork in an inert gas. How did ancient people achieve their high-tech perfection? Also of superb workmanship are bronze mirrors, festive horse harnesses and many other objects. Articles identified as the world's oldest extant coins were also found underwater-gold wire rings used as small change and a large hexahedral goldpiece.


Source: Russian News & Information Agency




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