There's some interesting claims in the video. It's very interesting that in the Qur'an, God speaks about him/her/its self in plural - 'We' - same as in the original Hebrew version of the bible.

When I hear 'we' did this to create you it makes me think of the annunaki rather than God. Especially with the scientific claims in the Qur'an now being known to be accurate.

This could be viewed as more evidence of the fact that we were created by alien lifeforms, rather than the word of God (depending on how you view 'God').

So, in my opinion, it's not the word of God, but it may well be the words of our creators. They made our physical body, God filled it with an eternal soul.

i think you might be right because its impossible to know the stuff at that time with out external knowledge

If the Qur'an is the word of "God," then God sure has lousy grammar. The tenses are all mixed up, and you can't follow half of what is going on. A simple glance at it shows that it is a horrible patch job of bits and pieces, many of which are simply incomprehensible.

"Allah disdains not to use the similitude of things, lowest as well as highest. Those who believe know that it is truth from their Lord; but those who reject Faith say: "What means Allah by this similitude?" By it He causes many to stray, and many He leads into the right path; but He causes not to stray, except those who forsake (the path)."

Could the Torah, Quran, and Bible all be the word of God?

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The Holy Quran is indeed 100% the word of God Almighty. It is the Mother of The Book as described by God, and it was sent down as a last mercy and as light and guidance for all mankind.

God made a covenant with all the prophets before giving them the book and wisdom, to wit;

3:81 When Allah made (His) covenant with the Prophets, (He said): Behold that which I have given you of the Scripture and knowledge. And afterward there will come unto you a messenger, confirming that which ye possess. Ye shall believe in him and ye shall help him. He said: Do ye agree, and will ye take up My burden (which I lay upon you) in this (matter)? They answered: We agree. He said: Then bear ye witness. I will be a witness with you.

The Holy Quran is the final testament of God to mankind, and the Mother of the Book ( Torah, Psalms and Gospel of Jesus) and confirms all of the Holy Scriptures of God.

2:27 Those who break the covenant of Allah after ratifying it and sever that which Allah ordered to be joined, and (who) make mischief in the earth: Those are they who are the losers.

God has ordered all the Holy Scriptures to be joined together, but through the mischief of Satan, the scriptures given in the time of the Prophet Moses, and the Psalms and the Gospel of Jesus has been corrupted so much that the Holy Scriptures instead of confirming each other has differed totally. Regarding this differences, God has said in the Holy Quran ;

4:155 Then because of their breaking of their covenant, and their disbelieving in the revelations of Allah, and their slaying of the Prophets wrongfully, and their saying: Our hearts are hardened Nay, but Allah hath set a seal upon them for their disbelief, so that they believe not save a few.

2:143 Thus We have appointed you a middle nation, that ye may be witnesses against mankind, and that the messenger may be a witness against you. And We appointed the Qiblah which ye formerly observed only that We might know him who followeth the messenger, from him who turneth on his heels. In truth it was a hard (test) save for those whom Allah guided. But it was not Allah's purpose that your faith should be in vain, for Allah is full of pity, Merciful toward mankind.

And the TRUTH according to God, The Lord of Mankind is ;

2:213 Mankind were one community, and Allah sent (unto them) Prophets as bearers of good tidings and as warners, and revealed therewith the Scripture with the truth that it might judge between mankind concerning that wherein they differed. And only those unto whom (the Scripture) was given differed concerning it, after clear proofs had come unto them, through hatred one of another. And Allah by His will guided those who believe unto the truth of that concerning which they differed. Allah guideth whom He will unto a Straight path.

And the Holy Quran being the Mother of The Book must be the guide wherewith mankind should judge the scriptures if that be the truth or corrupted by Satan, as God said ;

4:105 Lo! We reveal unto thee the Scripture with the truth, that thou mayst judge between mankind by that which Allah showeth thee. And be not thou a pleader for the treacherous.

5:48 And unto thee have We revealed the Scripture with the truth, confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watcher over it. So judge between them by that which Allah hath revealed, and follow not their desires away from the truth which hath come unto thee. For each We have appointed a divine law and a traced out way. Had Allah willed He could have made you one community. But that He may try you by that which He hath given you (He hath made you as ye are). So vie one with another in good works. Unto Allah ye will all return, and He will then inform you of that wherein ye differ.

4:44 Seest thou not those unto whom a portion of the Scripture hath been given, how they purchase error, and seek to make you (muslims) err from the right way?


15:2 It may be that those who disbelieve wish ardently that they were Muslims. -

The book is not the word of God otherwise your admitting your 'God' is a liar.

Two things that worry me about the Qu'ran being the word of God.

1) Is your God, like the christian God omnipotent and omniscient i.e. can see everything that happens now and in the future. If this is so your God would have known that the words would be twisted by man for reason of war, killings etc - and hence must take some responsibility.

2) Also I have never understood the role of Angel Gabriel dictating the word of God to the prophet Mohammed. This suggests a demi-God, but where does a demi God live? What makes them different from a God? Can they make mistakes?

Gabriel from the Bible and the Koran totally are at odds from each other and do not say the same things and they match and contradict each other.
Jesus form the Koran is not the same Jesus from the Bible so people are not worshiping the same thing only by name sake.

Don't forget the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons have had the same Light Being telling them fibs and it’s no different then and now. Why would an Angel spend so much time with one person? That’s a bit obsessive. If the Koran keeps saying this and that from the Bible is not true then it could have made a list of things that was true and included it in the Bible as it's own, if Jesus in the Bible spoke some truth and yet Muslims have to refer and pick what ever suits them from it and yet its not even discussed in the Koran or quoted sounds contrary. I see many Muslim's quoting the Bible against it self and picking what suits the Koran as theirs when the Koran does not even use such Biblical quotes as it's own which means it should have used the divine Biblical scriptures as its own voice rather than left out.

Basically the Koran is a rehash of the Bible and Torah and the same with the Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons and any other Light Being that keeps changing history from the Biblical roots.

Well the same can be said about the Bible being true in nature by its followers for its divinity so its still your choice and your own culture and maybe race will dicatate your heart in supporting a certain side. What ever happens people will be divided still and so will the nations.
The balance of power is on the Arab nations as you will never know how many people would have left Islam at a later stage in life had it not been a capital punishment offence.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by The time lord]

If Allah is the main speaker throughout the Quran;

"And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein IS guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil). Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers"

"for every one of you did We appoint a law and a way, and if Allah had pleased He would have made you (all) a single people but that He might try you in what He gave you, therefore strive with one another to hasten to virtuous deeds; to Allah is your return, of all (of you)"




Allah made all the religions and made us all different so why the jinzya and submission to Islam as the one true religion when Allah even says he made different rules for us to live by because it is his will to follow the different religions and see who can do the most virtious deeds.

Either Allah is a liar or someone has being lying and changing the Quran. Because it certainely isn't the true word of god even according to Allah (god).

Originally posted by Nohup
If the Qur'an is the word of "God," then God sure has lousy grammar. The tenses are all mixed up, and you can't follow half of what is going on. A simple glance at it shows that it is a horrible patch job of bits and pieces, many of which are simply incomprehensible.

That's because your reading the translation, the quran is actually written in arabic, written like poetry in rhymes, it's actually quite amazing.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by _Phoenix_]

I read the book but like so many things I hear attributed to it.
I did not see a chapter on embryology or genetics. Nor anything remotely related. It was a book of etiquette for living in a state of siege.


And God the all mighty creator of the universe says not to beat your wife more than is necessary.

Get a grip. If some being looking all metaphysical came to you tomorrow and said that they were your God, and that this is judgement day?
And if that metaphysical looking being said, that your family were all sinners but that only you were worthy. Would you just hand them over to be tortured endlessly? And go off with the being to live in bliss forever?

I really want to know!

The Holy Quran is the word of God and is the Final Testament to mankind, a word for word, line by line revelation from God.

There is a standing challenge since the time of its revelation and it remains until this day, that whosoever doubt that the revelation is from God should produce a Chapter like unto it and call to witness all except God if they are truthful. None from the time of the Prophet Muhammad and none in any other time since has there been anyone who could rise up to the challenge.

2:23 And if ye are in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto Our slave (Muhammad), then produce a sura or the like thereof, and call your witnesses beside Allah if ye are truthful.

10:38 Or say they: He hath invented it? Say: Then bring a surah like unto it, and call (for help) on all ye can besides Allah, if ye are truthful. -

Your claim that God has lousy grammar is blasphemous and in bad taste. Did you read in in the original form that it was revealed, that is, perfect Arabic; or from a transliterated version? Are you claiming to be more intelligent than God and seek to correct your Creator? Is there anything here on earth that God doesn't know?

God has this to say to all of us;

16:4 He hath created man from a drop of fluid, yet behold! he is an open opponent.

Can you deny that God has created you from a drop of fluid?

32:8 Then He made his seed from a draught of despised fluid;

35:11 Allah created you from dust, then from a little fluid, then He made you pairs (the male and female). No female beareth or bringeth forth save with His knowledge. And no one groweth old who groweth old, nor is aught lessened of his life, but it is recorded in a Book. Lo! that is easy for Allah.

75:37 Was he not a drop of fluid which gushed forth?

76:2 Lo! We create man from a drop of thickened fluid to test him; so We make him hearing, knowing.

77:20 Did We not create you from a base fluid?

86:6 He is created from a gushing fluid.

We should always be thankful to God and humble ourselves before Him; who created us from a lowly fluid that we might praise and glorify Him who is blessed forever more.

22:5 O mankind! if ye are in doubt concerning the Resurrection, then lo! We have created you from dust, then from a drop of seed, then from a clot, then from a little lump of flesh shapely and shapeless, that We may make (it) clean for you. And We cause what We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed time, and afterward We bring you forth as infants, then (give you growth) that ye attain your full strength. And among you there is he who dieth (young), and among you there is he who is brought back to the most abject time of life, so that, after knowledge, he knoweth naught. And thou (Muhammad) seest the earth barren, but when We send down water thereon, it doth thrill and swell and put forth every lovely kind (of growth).

I hope that next time you pick up the Holy Quran, it is with the intention of learning about God's words, and not to pick on wrong grammar and faulty spelling.

Peace!



[edit on 24-6-2008 by queenofangels_17]

a few months ago I was reading a book about the cloak of the illuminati
(THIS IS NOT THE NEW WORLD ORDER ILLUMINATI!)And I came accros something about how priests and the priestess of Egypt could have accses to wormholes.(like tame black holes, the could let you pass into another time almost instantly ,or to anothe part of the universe). if this is true, then this is how the prophet Mohamed may have gone to one of them to see what the future was like. or mayby he went himself?
sounds crazy, but so dose the fact that he may have been talking to God.