Essentially, I'm looking at USING the astral dimension. i.e. Eavesdroping, communicating, searching, socialising etc.)

What do you think. Is it possible without it being all in my head and unreal?

I believe such things could be possible if you could find the correct compatibility. The individuals would, I would assume, need to be in the same mind set and looking for the same solution. As for if 2 people could be brought together and just asked to do something of that nature without a prior connection I do not know. Interesting thought though...

Originally posted by Resentedhalo08
I propose to conduct a lucid dreaming experiment and it would be great if some fellow lucid dreamers here on ATS could join in!
Quite a simple experiment really, it would be great to get 3 or more people to take part... the aim is to see if we can meet in the lucid dreaming state and partake in eachothers activities. An arranged time will have to be sorted out to ensure that those who wish to join in will "hopefully" be lucid dreaming at the same time, it would be good also if those who wish to join in could submit a photograph of themselves, no links to myspace or anything as I do not want to risk gaining any information from outside sources.

Anyone interested?


Resentedhalo08.

[edit on 21-5-2008 by Resentedhalo08]

I'm in!!
I just had a lucid dream this morning that was pretty cool. I would be very interested in doing an experiment. Let's do it!

If we do the experiment and it's successful then it would mean that only five more people believe in the whole world.

Instead, if we do some serious scientific work and provide suitable and compelling forms of evidence then we could change the world - for the better I hope.

very cool idea, but what you're proposing is very difficult to do, if not impossible . . . Only once have I ever shared a dream with some one. (my brother) It seemed so real that we didn't even know it was a dream until months later when we asked our mother if it had truly occurred.

I'm an above average lucid dreamer. I'd say about 50% of the time I'm lucid in dreams. So . . . while I'd love to participate in this experiment; I wouldn't get your hopes up. I believe that the real life proximity amongst the dreamers is a factor. My brother and I were sharing the same room when our instance occurred. I think the fact that we all live in different areas of the world is a detriment.

[edit on 5/25/2008 by JPhish]

Hey there everyone, sorry about the delayed reply.
I'm glad that there are those here who wish to try this experiment, in my opinion it can only teach us more about the lucid dreaming state.

Resentedhalo.

Originally posted by Cheyracingchick
Hello, I have lucid dreamt since I was around the age of 8 or 9, consistently.[/QUOTE]

It's good to find another, "natural" lucid dreamer like myself... I would be most interested in using your skills, I presume you've had psychic experiences in your life... it is my opinion that "natural" lucid dreamers are more aware to the other levels of existance, I think that I could make a connection with you... making it easier for others to join in this experiment... pls U2U me


Resentedhalo08.

Originally posted by Jinni
If we do the experiment and it's successful then it would mean that only five more people believe in the whole world.

Instead, if we do some serious scientific work and provide suitable and compelling forms of evidence then we could change the world - for the better I hope.

I agree, do you have any thoughts on how we could get scientific proofs?


Resentedhalo08.

As a scientist I can give a brief overview of how the experiement should be conducted to get evidence which should be compelling and defensible enough to convince anyone willing to listen.

Here are the details:

Jinni's OOBE Experiment Numer 1.1
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Use two individuals who are familiar with OOBE byt unknown to each other.

Bring them to the place of investigation and do not let them speak to each other or communicate (to prevent arguments that they are lying abut the dream).

Brief them on what is going to happen

Conduct the experiment on the same day so you do not give them the chance to communicate.

Three separate rooms are required in the same property. One 'target' room and two 'launching rooms'.

In the target room put a piece of paper and write a word onto it. Put an object on top of the paper. Finally get a closed box and put another object inside it.

The 'launcher' rooms are those where the 'sleepers' will experience the OOBE. For each person show them a picture of the other person who is in the the other launching room. Tell them that this is the person they will need to communicate with.

Tell them when they have oOBE go into the room next door and remember the objects. In addition, ask them to wait in the room until BOTH are in there.

For one person give them a some text to tell the otherone in the 'target' room. THis will attempt to demonstrate that the information has been communicated.

Conduct the experiment and when they awake get the following details for the first person:

1: What was written on the paper
2: What object was on the paper
3: What was in the box
4: What was communicated to him\her by the other person

The second person should be 1-3.

Results should be obtained immediately and separatly to avoid biasing the results.

The target room should be secure and the persons entering OOBE should be monitored visually and aurally to assure that they haven't physically gained access to the room.

Of course, this assumes that the persons entering OOBE havn't been told prior to the OOBE what the items in the 'target' room are so effort needs to be made to assure that the experiement is 'fair'.

What do you think?

[edit on 25-5-2008 by Jinni]

If I might give an input here.

Be clear what you all want.

If I get that right the original idea of the OP was to see if people can meet in one and the same lucid-dream. Dreams usually do not take place in the physical realm but in mind and astral planes not that close to the physical.
You will meet in an altered reality.

The experiment you suggets targets more to get physical proof of OOBE.
More specific OOBE in the lowest plane. That one closest to the physical plane. That's a little something different.

Both interesting experiments of course. But for the later you really need to find people that have that specific skill.

Originally posted by g210bBoth interesting experiments of course. But for the later you really need to find people that have that specific skill.

I agree, I would also like to add that the experiment explained would also be difficult to do due to the geographical distances between the people taking part.


Resentedhalo08.

Originally posted by Jinni
As a scientist I can give a brief overview of how the experiement should be conducted to get evidence which should be compelling and defensible enough to convince anyone willing to listen.

Here are the details:

Jinni's OOBE Experiment Numer 1.1
---------------------------------

Unfortunately this method is un-practical at this time... due to the geographical distances between the people taking part.

Do you have any other ideas how the experiment could be undertaken and proved scientifically? A way that can vouch for the participants genuiness?


Resentedhalo08.

The problem with proving obe is, the fact it's not easily accessible, it's not easy, the best way to prove it, is to prove it to yourself.

Myself, I set 4 cards somewhere in my room where I wont be able to see it from bed, then if I have an OBE, I can go check on it, and then verify them when I wake up.

I will update on this when I accomplish it, I recommend anyone who can OBE to do it too, so we can come together and share our experiences.



[edit on 25-5-2008 by _Phoenix_]

I think this should be a fun and unpretentious experiment for those who are willing to try to connect to someone we haven't met before and meet outside of time and space.

I could try and convince a skeptic of my true intentions until I turn blue, it won't help if he/she doesn't want to believe me.

I suggest we try something that I actually saw on Discovery yesterday. Each of us who want to participate could decide with Resentedhalo08 a day when to perform the experiment. One person picks an image to focus on (not disclosing any information about it). It could be a painting, a photograph or similar. The same person focuses intensely on this image and tries to transmit it to Resentedhalo08 who the next day will describe any dreams and their contents. Or any other experiences for that matter.

If the imagery is transmitted successfully, the experiment could be taken to the next level where we actually decide to try and meet up during dream time within the context of the mentioned visual.

Does this sound good?

Originally posted by TheBandit795
I've had only one lucid dream in 2008, for example.

Make that two. I'll elaborate later on. Perhaps tomorrow.

eh you quoted yourself?

I think in order to do an experiment, you must be strict about the definitions of the words you are using...

Is this a "lucid dreaming", ""oobe", "remote viewing", "astral projection" kind of experiment? To me, every term means something different & separate.

Definitely makes sense! Well, have fun then, can't help you guys out, never had much luck with trying to OOBE/rv.

Originally posted by postmeme
Definitely makes sense! Well, have fun then, can't help you guys out, never had much luck with trying to OOBE/rv.

Aye, This officially leaves me out as well. No luck here with OoBE but am working on it Lucid Dreaming is no problem... actually leaving rooms to meet in a physical place is!... Good Luck with this though.

Also you might think of renaming this thread to an OoBE experience, rather thank Lucid Dreaming as it is confusing.

[edit on 5/28/08 by Cheyracingchick]