GOD?? pfft I will make my own, page 2

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How do you know time has no begining or end? It would be impposible to prove that.

Plus I think pasty white clean shaven Jesus kicks father times butt lol.
I wonder if there are any pictures that gives Yeshua a little more justice, something that makes Him look a little more like what He really looked like instead of some white hippy with a bathrobe on.

-Jimmy

Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
reply to post by Ownification

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But my god created time, you see that is the thing that 1up's over your God. I don't think you understood my question about time teaching you things, so I'll post it agian, read it carefully:

"What life lessons has time taught you?, notice I'm asking you what time has taught you, not life experiences, but time, no things that you have expaerienced over a course of time, but time it's self."

Judging from your previous response though it seems you view time as more philosophical, more than literal. I view my God literal, not philisophical, however I do not dismiss symbolism or take symbolism literally.

-Jimmy

I got your point, I'm talking about time as an entity, experience is very much part of time, we learn from our past which is three in one and one in three as I previousely stated.

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How do you know time has no begining or end? It would be impposible to prove that.

"Not all physicists think time started with the Big Bang ..." physicsworld.com...

Plus I think pasty white clean shaven Jesus kicks father times butt lol.
I wonder if there are any pictures that gives Yeshua a little more justice, something that makes Him look a little more like what He really looked like instead of some white hippy with a bathrobe on.

I don't think the pasty white clean shaven Jesus kicks my GODS ass lol, he died, TIME still lives on It would be funny if they drew an afro man Jesus, the white people would get offended by that I reckon.

reply to post by Ownification

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- You might say that 'aaaaaaaaaaaa my GOD is better than yours cause my GOD controls the UNIVERSE', well without my GOD the UNIVERSE wouldn't exist. Think about it, without time the planets wouldn't be able to evolve and the universe wouldn't be able to evolve and so onn and sooo forth.

Actually the universe wouldn't exist if there were no space... Without time it would exist as an eternal and simultaneous "past", "present", "future", (I put those divisions of sequentiality in quotes, because without time, logically there is no sequentiality therefore no past, present and future) but without space, there would be no place for any existence to evolve. And I really can't see how time could have contributed in the creation of space...

Anyway, if you were certain about your beliefs, you wouldn't need anyone to prove or disprove them...

Alexandros

reply to post by Ownification

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Ok, you asked for it...

Afro Jesus!

Straight haired, Cris Rock Jesus!

Slave Jesus! (you gotta be kidding me)


Jesus looked more like Osama, then Kid Rock I think.

-Jimmy

Originally posted by Alexander1111
reply to post by Ownification

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Actually the universe wouldn't exist if there were no space... Without time it would exist as an eternal and simultaneous "past", "present", "future", (I put those divisions of sequentiality in quotes, because without time, logically there is no sequentiality therefore no past, present and future) but without space, there would be no place for any existence to evolve. And I really can't see how time could have contributed in the creation of space...

Anyway, if you were certain about your beliefs, you wouldn't need anyone to prove or disprove them...

Alexandros

That's my point exactly and the point of this thread, "if you were certain about your beliefs, you wouldn't need anyone to prove or disprove them".

Time existed before BigBang therefore time caused the existence of space.

Originally posted by Clearskies
reply to post by mrwupy

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You seem to think so MUCH MORE of your opinion than the average Christian's.
Is it because you are so much smarter?

I did not target Christians, I targeted religion.

But if the shoe fits.......

Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
reply to post by Bigwhammy

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Why is Jesus white and without a beard in that picture? I've never seen Him clean shaven before lol.

He received one of those Gillette quatrros with four blades in the mail right before Easter weekend.

reply to post by Ownification

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Time existed before BigBang therefore time caused the existence of space.

Sorry but that is not true. Einsteins general relativity (which has proven to 5 decimal places mathematically) demands a beginning to time. Physicist have observed that the universe is expanding as predicted as well. But note it is not that the universe is expanding into empty space. Space Time is expanding.

One thing you are misunderstanding about the big bang is that before the Bang the laws of physics didn't exist yet. Time is only an arbitrary way for man to measure, just like length,width, and height. You might as well worship width then. At least then you could brag about having the "widest" God.

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originally posted by Ownification
GOD THE CREATOR OF EVIL

“That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside Me. I am the Lord, and there is none else. I form the light, and create darkness: I made peace [good], and create evil: I the Lord do all these things” (Isa. 45:6-7).

Again you confuse Gods sovereignty with his desire. God can use evil - even sin - but he doesn't will it or want it - he allows it - but not forever only for now.

Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. (Jam 1:13-14)

"of his own lust" NOT Gods will -- get it?

reply to post by Bigwhammy

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Time existed before BigBang therefore time caused the existence of space.

I don't understand the logic of this statement. It's like saying that since A=B then A=C as well. The conclusion you draw is forced.

The point in believing in God is not in trying to prove his existence using your finite logic and science's theories. Trust me, this is futile. It's personal experience that constitutes God-knowingness...

Alexandros

P.S. Sorry, that was addressed to Ownification's post not Bigwhammy's...

[edit on 23-5-2008 by Alexander1111]

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