This thread wasn't about whether or not aliens exist or the existence of UFO's as being alien craft, it was about whether or not DISCLOSURE will ever happen. THE U.S. will never give up it's advantage unless pressed by the world community.

flagged and starred. they are out there.

Interesting post, and I can certainly see why you make it.

But, I can remember other 'bursts' of UFO stuff hitting the media - so I suspect this latest round is just one more turn of the pre-planned disclosure wheel of social conditioning.

It is fair to say that more and more (ordinary) people seem to be reporting sightings and experiences these days - which leads me to the point that ONE DAY the powers-that-be will HAVE to disclose something about the situation.

As has been said elsewhere, I cannot see it happening in the current geopolitical climate without indemnity and amnesty being granted to those ordered to keep the secrets about it.

Disclosure in the 'current geopolitical climate' would also involve scrutiny from scientists of every persuasion, religious upheaval, uproar from civil libertarians, economic implications, and a zillion questions like:
- how long have you been dealing with them? what have you said? what have you done with the technology you have derived from your studies etc etc.

You see my point? The powers that keep this stuff secret have sooooo much to lose by disclosure in terms of economic and military superiority that they aint gonna let it go.

Unless ... they play the fear card

Using the fear card 'they' totally control the information released, don't have share any technology, can keep all the secrets they want etc etc. Heck, why not throw martial law in to show they are serious. Imagine being told that every ufo nut and abductee might be an unknowing or unwitting agent/spy/terrorist for these evil aliens. You would have kids turning in parents, friends reporting on each other etc.

Several researchers into ufo disclosure have commented (some pubicly) that there is great 'incentive' to play along with the fear factor with regards to aliens and UFOs. As a magazine publisher that involves this field, I can assure you that if I went down this road, I could be a rich man.

Werner von Braun repeatedly warned Dr Carol Rosin that 'they' would play the 'evil alien' card as part of an agenda to control mankind with ET-derived technology.

For this to happen, you will need to hear and see of a widely reported, visual event, that basically depicts evil aliens killing innocent humans - probably in America - most likely in several places at once. I'm telling you now, if this happens, it will be a controlled event - despite what it 'looks like' on the TV.

You cannot 'fight' the people with this agenda; public demands mean nothing to them. They draw their strength from non-physical entities who want one thing only from mankind - our negative energies. They literally 'feed' off our individual and collective fear, hate, distrust, anxiety, sadness. They are not 'evil' - they are simply like parasites in the human body - they are attracted to potential foodsources and feed. The Muslims call them Djinn, Christians call them demons, Buddhists, Hindus, and every nature culture on the planet have names for them. The basic jist of them is that they are attracted to 'food sources' where they attempt to fan the flames of lust, hate, fear, greed etc. So basically, if you don't want them around you or the planet - simply broadcast pure unconditional love (which is much harder than it sounds) and the 'energy' signal emitted by mankind will change 'frequency' and deny them a food source.

I realise with some of you, that I have just signed my credibility death warrant - so spare us all the flack and sarcastic comments. It is a free world (sort of) and I am entitled to the conclusions of my research. If you told me 20 years ago that I would be sitting here typing this I would have laughed my head off.

For those who are intrigued by this - have a go at feeling and broadcasting pure unconditional love. You have absolutely nothing to lose, and who knows, you might actually be helping the planet through its current turbulence.

peace

Duncan

If they play the "fear card" I would think that they would have to have some sort of fairly tangible evidence to prove it, which I would think would amount to full dislosure. I could be wrong.

Originally posted by alienstar
We are still alone in this universe cause they is no concrete proof that life exist out there.We can debate this all we want.

That is ridiculous logic. Mankind has but stepped foot on but one planet, and its moon. Mankind currently has neither the means, or the will to search our entire universe, each and every one of the planets. You see, it's logistically impossible to search the entire universe for life. Right now we don't necesarily have "solid proof" that there other forms of life in the stars because we have haven't been to another solar system. If you had any notion of just how vast the universe is you wouldn't need concrete proof, you would use logic to come to the conclusion that there is most likely life outside this planet. If there was concrete proof, what makes you think it would be public anyways? Also, many people would regard videos, photos, and witness testimony as evidence..What constitutes "concrete" proof that there are extraterrestrials for you?

Originally posted by alienstar
We are still alone in this universe cause they is no concrete proof that life exist out there.We can debate this all we want.

Statisticians, biologists, physicists and chemists generally agree that life on some level has, does or will exist elsewhere in the universe.

The concrete proof is in the numbers.

Numbers that we have relied on and trusted for so many things through out humanity's history.

Numbers that time and time again have proved their worth.

Aint no reason not to trust em on this.

I think this thread will turn out to be quite interesting as soon as the narrow minded skeptics hear about it.


[edit on 21-5-2008 by Bob Down Under]

Originally posted by ppskylight

Originally posted by alienstar
We are still alone in this universe cause they is no concrete proof that life exist out there.We can debate this all we want.

That is ridiculous logic. Mankind has but stepped foot on but one planet, and its moon. Mankind currently has neither the means, or the will to search our entire universe, each and every one of the planets. You see, it's logistically impossible to search the entire universe for life. Right now we don't necesarily have "solid proof" that there other forms of life in the stars because we have haven't been to another solar system. If you had any notion of just how vast the universe is you wouldn't need concrete proof, you would use logic to come to the conclusion that there is most likely life outside this planet. If there was concrete proof, what makes you think it would be public anyways? Also, many people would regard videos, photos, and witness testimony as evidence..What constitutes "concrete" proof that there are extraterrestrials for you?

I do not need concrete proof! I have seen one with my own eyes around 200 meters away and on the ground along with other witnesses.

If your a skeptic then open your mind a little and take time to search the net and other sources on this subject, also watch the disclosure project video for starters.

(stay clear of Utube and the UFO religious sect/cult sites)

Ex service men and people still in the MOD are now coming forward in the US, Uk and many other countries.

It wont be to much longer before you get your concrete proof, and I bet you wont like it or should I say you will be shocked like the minority of the population will be.

The discovery of alien life will happen just as the discovery of cells and other things. History repeats itself. More progression in technology or an event will lead to to the discovery.

Still no concrete proof,sorry...........and if you read my earlier posts i said i believe in ufos and aliens.I just said there is proof though.Sad but true.So what are they going to disclose if there is no proof?

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[edit on 21-5-2008 by alienstar]

Originally posted by alienstar
Still no concrete proof,sorry. So what are they going to disclose if there is no proof?

Is this some sort of thought exercise you're presenting for an argument? The philisophical, "If I havn't seen it, then it doesn't exist."?

How can you definitively say that there is "no proof" to disclose? Have you visited every TS/SCI government lab to be able to back up such a claim?

Originally posted by Mad_Hatter
flagged and starred. they are out there.

you know.. I can't read posts like that... and not get a sick feeling in my stomach.

the fact that they've made contact with over 72 separate species..
combined with what they do to people and things around the world.. all the secrecy.. death destruction.. lies..
you think the gov that you talk so highly about.. here... the one you love so much??

and you sit there and think that the entities that they choose collude with (out of the 72 species) ..are somehow.. "the good happy guys" you think they pick the honest loving ones?

and you're on this thread all: "they're out there" "tell us the truth" "they just wanna meet us" .. "i can't wait for disclosure"

I swear.. I cannot fathom the logic behind such sentiment.

you honestly think.. that when the "cat's outta the bag"...
that they're gonna introduce you to the "good guys" and everybody's going to be happy...

if you think this..

you're crazier then they are.






just pray that the "angelic" ones.. the spiritually developed ones.. will come and intervine after you get your BIG SURPRISE.


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This could actually have something to it. It actually has been ALOT in the swedish media lately and there was a poll in Swedens biggest newspaper and 95% of the swedish people believed that we are not alone.

People all over the world have been socially conditioned to "eventually" believe in ufo's and aliens... ever since the B-movies of the late 1940's.
So in reality it has been an on going diclosure of information over the past 60years, more and more "truthfull" information coming to light as the decades pass... soon we will have the main event, a mass ufo flyover.