Originally posted by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men


Freemasonry has certainly utilized the symbol of the obelisk in its masonic art, aprons, and degree certificates, etc., since the love affair with everything Egyptian began in the 18th century.

Actually, long before that.

The Regius poem, dated circa 1390 A.D., is the Craft's oldest known document. It states, in part:

On this manner, through good wit of geometry,
Began first the craft of masonry;
The clerk Euclid on this wise it found,
This craft of geometry in Egypt land.
In Egypt he taught it full wide,

In divers lands on every side;
Many years afterwards, I understand,
Ere that the craft came into this land.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
Justme I forgot about

Gosh! First you tell me that you'd rather go to hell than be in heaven with me (on that other thread) and now I'm not memorable enough to even remember! I'm starting to get a complex here, Brother! (just kidding)

Anyway... I've certainly made no secret about my Masonic affiliation... heck it's in my Avatar, plain to see. I don't know why the poster that Rockpuck was responding to thinks he made some great "discovery" there.

I'm starting to think I'll just voluntarily ignore the Secret Societies forum. It's become a cesspool with one or two people and their hordes of sock puppets posting garbage over and over, with no real discussion.


[edit on 5/21/2008 by JustMe74]

Really though, you guys have the most petty fights I've ever witnessed.

You should hang out in occult circles if you really want to see petty fights

Anyway your post supports the case that there is no Masonic conspiracy. If they can't control the offshoot/fake/irregular/clandestine orders I'd say they would have a whole heap of problems controlling the world.


::Edited because I can't spell today::

[edit on 5/21/2008 by Cug]

obelisk.
Not used or mentioned in the ritual for the blue lodge.
Not used or mentioned in the York Rite
Not used or mentioned in the Scottish Rite.

Could had been use ease where? Yes acourse. In the time frame Mackey was writting there was a great excitement about things egyption.
There were also a lot of groups forming that claimed to be masonic. Most have died away and have left little of thier ritual behind. The rules of who can claim to be a mason has gone through a great deal of change in the past 300 years are so. Grand Lodges have agued with each other as to who is Legit and who wasn't. Most of this has been worked out, but then there is France,which can't seem to work it out between themselves. This is why no one mason can speak for all masons

Originally posted by JoshNorton
If wars have been fought over differences of religion, how can you call a disagreement between theism and atheism "petty"?

Good point. Seems everyone has and still is fighting over the same thing.

Well they have been laying capsules all over, they just recently laid one at NORTHCOM.

Why the sudden interest in people in a hundred years?

Originally posted by JustMe74
I don't know why the poster that Rockpuck was responding to thinks he made some great "discovery" there.

Discovery, by definition, means to find something previously unknown. I previously had not known you even existed let alone the fact that you are indeed a mason. So, yes, for me - as you say - it was a discovery.

I wouldn't say a particularly "great" one though. But at least no one can claim I'm lazy, or that I don't put the effort into "discovering" things for myself.