It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Thank you.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
This thread has turned into an afterschool special.
Boring!
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Alrighty then, lets discuss these thing in particular..
What is the number 33?
Who killed JFK? and what alleged suspects were masons?
What is really on the moon and mars?
September 11 wasn't an inside job? Really, who did it?
NO MASONIC CONSPIRACY???? Please tell us about Hiram Abiff, Solomon and the Knights Templar?
Really I want to know, why it is okay to worship idols and call yourselves christians or jews or whatever you call it.
No masonic symbolry?
WTF????
Masonic or not, you guys adopted it, so what's the difference?
ARMY
You guys are the army, of ignorance.
You see things that can improve the world for good, yet you do nothing.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
What is the number 33?
Who killed JFK? and what alleged suspects were masons?
What is really on the moon and mars?
September 11 wasn't an inside job? Really, who did it?
NO MASONIC CONSPIRACY???? Please tell us about Hiram Abiff, Solomon and the Knights Templar?
Really I want to know, why it is okay to worship idols and call yourselves christians or jews or whatever you call it.
No masonic symbolry?
WTF????
Masonic or not, you guys adopted it, so what's the difference?
ARMY
You guys are the army, of ignorance.
You see things that can improve the world for good, yet you do nothing.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
Really I want to know, why it is okay to worship idols and call yourselves christians or jews or whatever you call it.
Originally posted by Saurus
All Freemasons are monotheistic.
Originally posted by Fire_In_The_Minds_of_Men
You've probably read it before, no doubt. But the book is like ten times more substantial. I have communicated with him a few times through email, and the stuff this guy has uncovered is incredible. You won't be disappointed.
Originally posted by scientist
I have never heard the requirement of a monotheistic god - yet when searching online, many websites have that listed as part of the requirement. Is this a Northern / Southern jurisdiction thing? What gives?
Originally posted by justpassingthrough
Again, I relate it to religion because I can read up on anything I want to in religion, I don't have to join a certain one and go up the ranks to learn about God. Nothing is hidden from me by the church or it's members. The unfolding process makes sense and is logical nonetheless.
JPT
Originally posted by lost in the midwest
Well the truth be told, you can do the same with freemasonry. All of the rituals, password, hand shakes and lectures can be found on the internet or at your local library.
Just because you can read up on anything you want to, be it religion or freemasonry, does not mean that you will understand the writter's intended meaning. There is a lot in both that requires personnal exspriance, before true understanding can be obtained.
Originally posted by justpassingthrough
I do have a question for all the masons out there. Why do all the ex masons or even the anti-masons that were never masons complain about a blood oath? Do any of you really take blood oaths?
Originally posted by Masonic Light
Ancient York Masonry has its roots in medieval England, and somewhere down the line, adopted the same penalties for oath violation as was found in the Mariner Oaths, which were oaths taken by naval shipmen in England in the middle ages.
Many Grand Lodges have removed these from the ritual. However, many also still use them, but when they do, it is stressed that it is done out of tradition, and that the penalties are symbolic, not literal.
Originally posted by justpassingthrough
I will admit that I find the blood oaths unsettling. I would think that any Christian or Jew would never condone that type of thing and therefore not join the masons.
I doubt very much that you can talk about it, but what is so important that you must take a blood oath for, or what WAS so important that a blood oath was needed.
Originally posted by 12.21.12
When does Luciferianism come into play?
Do you all study the work of Aleister Crowley??
Are you guys very familiar with Thelema and other teachings??