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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 08:42 PM by MidnightDStroyer
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Originally posted by Milton the Geek
Free speech and or press is essential to a democracy.
Actually, no...Democracy means the death of freedoms, including press & speech. Democracy is essentially Mob Rule where one person with a good PR
campaign can convince 51% of the voters into voting away the Rights of the other 49%.
This is why the US Founding Forefathers never wanted a democratic government & wrote the Constitution to guarantee a Republic government
(specifically, a Constitutional Republic). Granted that the Constitution uses some democratic procedures in the system, but that very same
Constitution also places very strict limits on the government & states, few limits on the People, while at the same time forces all government
Officers to bind themselves to the Law of obedience to the Constitution or automatically be disqualified from Office (& can remove such Officers that
violate any of the terms in the Constitution).
If you believe that the USA is supposed to be a Democracy and/or has any business whatsoever in the spread of democracy around the world, then
you need some serious reading time with the Constitution.
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 10:36 AM by Dark Crystalline
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I just read in our newspaper, that Google is REFUSED to fulfill the demand of Lieberman. They're not going to become the censor of the Zionists.
Free speech 1 - Zionists 0. At least corporations, such as Google is also start to draw the line for the Zionist madness.
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 11:27 AM by mybigunit
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Originally posted by Dark Crystalline
I just read in our newspaper, that Google is REFUSED to fulfill the demand of Lieberman. They're not going to become the censor of the Zionists.
Free speech 1 - Zionists 0. At least corporations, such as Google is also start to draw the line for the Zionist madness.
The zionists wont give up though. They will try to make googles life miserable by spreading rumors or getting audits or whatever. Sigh pathetic.
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 05:47 PM by Anonymous ATS
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 07:41 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Censorship of anykind is not my cup of tea. I don't agree with some of the content on youtube, just as I do not agree with some of the music industry
and movies, but censoring or out right banning is an affront to my basic human rights to choose what I see or hear.
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 08:26 PM by UFOBountyHunter
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I'll try to be brief;
Did you folks think that for one minute, that the FED's are going to let highly intelligent and skilled civilian truth investigators, and fact
finders, who then put the SPOTLIGHT on the lying liars of the US government, that in turn exposes them for the corrupt money grubbing sonzabitches
that they are, would never react? The are LAW MAKERS and LAWYERS.
They know they are all a bunch of no good ratbastards,but,they don't want you knowing what it is they are up to.The Bilderberg members are a prime
example. So is the CHENEY/Halliburton connection. Lieberman is just pissed off, that he and all the rest are being exposed. They just might lose a
re-election, if the truths were known. Our Democracy is supposed to be transparent, with checks and balances,but, the rougue government boys have made
that a joke. Now they have closed door secret meetings and shut out the publics need to know, about how they are selling us out.
Those that are in Washington D.C. never expected in a million years, that
the common man, would come with things like YouTube,MySpace,ATS, or the like, and put their asses on the burner. They got away with their horsecrap
for more than 200 years, now, we are finally onto them. THEY HATE IT! Now he wants to sensor it. Washington D.C. may have corporate lamestream media
in their pocket,but not private sectors like YouTube. As far as Lieberman is concerned;I say, vote him out of office!
Rotten little creep. Jesus, and to think that he wants to be President.
God help us all.
His rant has nothing to do with morality or minors. It is about saving his own ass,business deals, and keeping the money coming in. Who does he think
he's fooling?
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 09:45 PM by Anonymous ATS
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Leiberman is a slime bucket shill for the CFR/Zionists.
This isn't about Religion.
Watch him coach everything McCain says. He really should take his hand out of Sen McCain's back so we can watch John sink his own ship.
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reply posted on 22-5-2008 @ 10:06 PM by k3456789
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we need to watch this jew reptilian entity
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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 07:08 AM by wayno
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freedom of speech and of the press has returned (briefly?) to the world scene thanks to the internet - an unexpected outcome, I am sure
the growth of info sources like ATS almost leads one to believe there is a glimmer of light actually shining on the exit door to this world of
manipulated and controlled public brainwashing that has been achieved by the PTB thru MSM
The freedom of information that is available thru the internet has the potential to eventually enlighten the whole general public - not just
conspiracy theorists.
Such enlightenment could actually inspire people to finally throw out the bums who have been at the controls of the disinformation machine: the
politicians and their corporate sponsors.
DANGER! The warning sirens have to be blaring loud in the ears of the guilty.
How much longer does the internet have before it is censored? What can be done to get the Senators to vote against it?
Kudos to Google for not going down without a fight.
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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 02:43 PM by UFOBountyHunter
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I was a subscriber to the old "SPOTLIGHT" PAPER. It was mostly Libertarian/John Birch/Anti-Semite/with neo NAZI leanings/ plus being overtly White
Supremists in it's view points,( run by Liberty Lobby) which I didn't have any issues with at that time. Lyndon LaRouche was the voice of a movement
that was out to expose and otherwise give the status quo a burning pain in their ass. He went after Carter bigtime.
The SPOTLIGHT had a radical twist to it, and admittedly I was way more radical then, than I am today. (Age does that to you )
LaRouche and others were very vocal. They also made many enemies. It really pissed off D.C. and they went after him, when he decided to go for
President himself. They hung LaRouche on mail fraud. ( which was a bullcrap charge, and it ended his bid for the White House, along with some jail
time which in effect killed any further political asparations )
Now, about that same time, a Congressman, ( I can't remember who-possibly Lieberman ) was shown on national television, holding up a copy of the
"SPOTLIGHT" and announcing in a bellicose manner, "News Papers like this, have to be run out of business!", which of course is an assult on the
"press press".
The motto of the SPOTLIGHT was "Without Fear or Favor", and they lived up to it, and then some. They also sponsored the Radio Free America talk
show, which was a free for all, and sometimes covered topics that would stand your hair on end. Many of the callers sounded as if they had just
escaped the nuthouse somewhere. But, it was interesting!
The fed's took the SPOTLIGHT to court, suing it to reveal it's sources, which it wouldn't. They kept harrassing the paper with litigation
mercessly,charging it with defamation violations of until it finally folded in 2001. They had won, and broke the back of an independant , if not
somewhat off the wall, press. "ATS" is somewhat "OFF the WALL" itself.
That organization has since regrouped, under new management and is now called the AMERICAN FREE PRESS. It is tamer now. The lion has become a kitten.
"MEW" But it still has claws, and teeth, and isn't afraid to take on issue's such as the 911 truth movement.
The point here is: while the Internet was largely owned by the government, the advent of popular culture taking it over, and independant thinkers and
investigators creating all sorts of avenues to expose (and exploit) information that many would just as soon you never knew, is here to stay. You
cannot hide or get away from anything put on the internet once it is there. Celebrities are finding that out the hard way. Some You Tubers are going
to live to regret what they have put there in the past.
My Space and the like will come back to haunt people later in life.
Politicans are just now becoming more and more aware of how difficult it is to undo any damages done to them, via the Internet. Censoring it, will
only create more problems for them than they can handle.
The only way they could shut it down, is to pull the plug on the satellites, which they will never do. The whole world now depends on the internet for
commerce, and it is a good thing too. It is our last best chance to expose and fry the Rats in Wash. D.C and elsewhere with the internet SPOTLIGHT on
them as never before. It is one thing to close down a printed paper, but, shutting the collective mouths of internet bloggers and like forums, well,
it ain't going to happen.
If Lieberman doesn't like it, he can go suck on a big one.
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reply posted on 23-5-2008 @ 04:09 PM by encoder
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niceone DimensionalDetective!
for what i think of this. 2 words
bull droppings.
if someone expresses his hatred towards me, well,.. i accept it with honor. for the other part:
who the hell is so stupid to do recruitment over the tube?
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reply posted on 24-5-2008 @ 01:13 PM by pak88
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Good riddance, and while they're at it shutdown myspace too. The site is mad retarded, typing to someone on the internet when you can use a phone
anytime, only a terroist, pedo, wierdo or retard would use that site,unless you're promiting something you have no business being on there, that's
my opinion, especially if your over 18.
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reply posted on 24-5-2008 @ 02:04 PM by The Godfather of Conspira
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Good riddance, and while they're at it shutdown myspace too. The site is mad retarded, typing to someone on the internet when you can use a
phone anytime,
Yeah just shut down any medium of dissent, anything that COULD be used at against the government. Good idea.
While your at it, hand over your guns, your cars and your food to them too, after all they can all potentially used to disrupt society. You don't
need them any more, let the government decide who defends you, who transports you and who feeds you.
Excuse me while I wrap a blindfold around my head and listen to some more FAUX News.
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reply posted on 24-5-2008 @ 04:39 PM by The Godfather of Conspira
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What's next Lieberman? The "Good German Act"?
"Report on your neighbours and their subversive activities, don't let rumours and ramblings divide the Fatherland!"
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reply posted on 24-5-2008 @ 07:16 PM by MidnightDStroyer
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Originally posted by The Godfather of Conspira
"Report on your neighbours and their subversive activities, don't let rumours and ramblings divide the Fatherland!"
That's already happening...Check out Celebration Of Americans Turning In Their Neighbors, Family
Members. Near the bottom of the article, they even brag about the "bribe bonuses" offered for ratting out your family, friends & neighbors.
Heil, Feurher Bush!
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reply posted on 24-5-2008 @ 10:01 PM by pak88
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Hey...I didn't say all that Slick. I'm just saying if your a grown male or female you shouldn't need a medium like Myspace to talk to your friends
with all the tech we have available today. That's just retarded, and since when did grown woman feel the need to show their bare ass to their
friends, if you wouldn't do it in public then why on a site like myspace? And don't even let me begin with the people who lie on there. Bottom line
there's a place for everything and showing your ass on a site(myspace) where young kids' frequent is not the place, they do have porn/adult sites
for that you know.
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reply posted on 25-5-2008 @ 03:34 AM by The Godfather of Conspira
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Reminds me of the famous quote by Martin Niemöller, a German who opposed the Nazis and survived the concentration camps.
In Germany, they came first for the Communists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Communist;
And then they came for the trade unionists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a trade unionist;
And then they came for the Jews, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Jew;
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up.
Isn't it scary how history can repeat itself in such a short amount of time?
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Welcome to the 21st Century, it is what it is. Were products of technology and consumerism. Take it or leave it, this how people communicate and
socialise in the 21s Century.
Sad but hey, every generation has their defining points.
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reply posted on 25-5-2008 @ 05:31 PM by CharlesMartel
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This is a classic example of someone (in this case, Lieberman) speaking as though they are experts on a subject. Lieberman claims to be advocating
his position on the basis of "national security", but I doubt it was coordinated with the intelligence communities who usually prefer to be able to
know what our enemies are saying and doing rather than censoring or jamming their transmissions.
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reply posted on 25-5-2008 @ 06:01 PM by BlasteR
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HOLY CRA9!! WHOA!
Just sifting through the posts so far and wow! I actually find it quite hysterical that such a politician would even attempt to do such a thing. Did
Lieberman actually think that youtube and Google would bow to his will? This is the friggin internet man!!!! This isn't a media outlet like Fox
news (the fixed news network) where censorship is a way of life. This is the internet where free exchange of ideas and information are mantras.
I'm still trying to figure out what he was thinking. it's not like youtube or google somehow advocate terrorism anyway!!! Anything of the sort is
bound to be flagged and removed. Not to mention there are much bigger political fish to fry than this..... Please...
-ChriS
[edit on 25-5-2008 by BlasteR]
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