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Topic started on 20-5-2008 @ 10:28 AM by Shar
First of all I would like to say that I am not for Clinton or Obama. However, this is 100% wrong!!!! You can’t get any worse than this. How many other states has pulled this exact same thing? Has this been done in your state? Do you even know?

My home state West Virginia overwhelming voted for Clinton at 67% However, our senators gave it to Obama!!!

So no matter what the uneducated people thinks or want its what the government wants!!!! Our votes do not count!!!!


See they are saying were uneducated people and they have to make the CORRECT DECISION FOR US!!!!

Clinton's foundation in recent primaries has been blue-collar and rural white voters, and Kentucky offers them in large numbers, like its neighbors Ohio, West Virginia, Virginia and Tennessee. The median household income in Kentucky is just shy of $34,000. Only 7 percent of households in the state report annual incomes in excess of $100,000, and Census Bureau data compiled by the Almanac of American Politics shows only 8 percent of the homes in Kentucky are valued at more than $200,000. Obama, on the other hand, has performed strongly among more affluent Democrats and voters with college and post-graduate degrees -- which makes Oregon an inviting target.


news source

So what they are saying is low income folks can’t properly think!!!! Only people with incomes in the six figure range, and they are assuming these people are college educated!!! So they have to do the thinking for these states!!!!!


IN WV:


Democrats Vote------- % ---------- Del

Clinton 239,298----- 67 ---------- 20
Obama 91,747--------- 26---------- 8
Edwards 26,196------- 7 --------- 0
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Updated: 05/16/2008 03:51 PM
100% of precincts

link


But, who did the senators vote for?
Barack Obama (108)
Sen. Robert Byrd (W.Va.)

Sen. Jay Rockefeller (W.Va.)

link

Why?


" Could this not just be regional, but also possibly done throughout the whole country?"

















[edit on 20-5-2008 by Shar]


reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 11:19 AM by lonewolf37
Originally posted by Shar
So what they are saying is low income folks can’t properly think!!!! Only people with incomes in the six figure range, and they are assuming these people are college educated!!! So they have to do the thinking for these states!!!!!


This is a great post Shar and it does seem to be the case.

As you will see here the ‘Super Delegates’ have not been around for that long and they were implemented to give “power to people who have a vested interested in party policies”.


Super-delegates were implemented in 1984.

Super-delegates are designed to act as a check on ideologically extreme or inexperienced candidates. It also gives power to people who have a vested interested in party policies: elected leaders.


In other words they are there to make sure that big money gets what they are paying for no matter how the vote turns out. It seems to me that the Democratic Party is for sale to the highest bidder.

Here is some more information about 'Super Delegartes'.


The Democratic party also has a third type: super-delegates. A super-delegate is a leader in the National Democratic Party who has a vote at the national convention; they not selected by state party members.
Super-delegates (approximately 850 in 2008) include the following:
• Elected members of the Democratic National Committee (~450)
• Democratic Governors
• Democratic US Senators and US Representatives (including non-voting delegates)
• Distinguished party leaders (current and former Presidents and Vice Presidents; former Democratic leaders of the Senate and House; former DNC chairmen)
• Unpledged "add-on's" chosen by the DNC
The Democratic Party allocates delegates based on a state's Presidential vote in the prior three elections and the number of electors. In addition, states that hold their primaries or caucuses later in the cycle receive bonus delegates.
If there is no clear winner after state primaries and caucuses, then the super-delegates -- who are bound only by their consciences -- will decide the nominee.


And if you were wondering why voting dates keep changing and getting later and later every year then make note of this.


In addition, states that hold their primaries or caucuses later in the cycle receive bonus delegates.


So all you have to do is move your primary date and you get ‘bonus votes’. What the heck are bonus votes!

Also, note that many of the super delegates are not even currently elected officials. They are ‘former’ presidents, vice presidents, senators, congressmen, etc. and something called “unpledged ‘add-ons’ chosen by the DNC” who can be almost anyone. Does this mean that they left out a category for the ‘pledged add-ons’?

So they can add as many of these super delegates as they like and the super delegates can vote for anyone they choose without regard to their constituents and in many cases don’t even have constituents. In the late 1700’s they had a term for this, “taxation without representation.” We all pay our taxes and go to the poles like good little boys and girls and then they decide what’s best for us whether we like it or not!

What Are Super-Delegates?



reply posted on 26-5-2008 @ 05:54 PM by Shar
Originally posted by Sestias
Most of the superdelegates are voting as their states voted; the people of W.Va. have been cheated. Byrd and Rockefeller will be running for re-election eventually. The people can get even then.


I do believe that the people will continue to keep their blind folds on and vote for them. Although, I have heard rumors that Byrd will not be running again and our current Gov. Manchin will be taking his place. He's no better actually one of our worst politicians.


LLoyd45

Great post Shar! The question that one must asks is why the losing candidates themselves don't make mention of this practice?


I am too concerned about this, its as if they are paid not too. They just roll over way too easy. But, its evidence to me that we do not have a voice any longer and they have everything going down the same street weather we like it or not!!!

clay2 baraka
Superdelegates are a joke. My Rep. is Lynn Woolsey. She presides in a district consisting primarily of two counties who went overwhelmingly for Obama by 2/3 margins. Who is she voting for? Clinton.



So this was done to your state as well. Just the opposite though. I guess to make up for the one taken away in my state. IDK.




It is all elitist BS. However, the defenders of the system will tell you that the system is in place to prevent the rise of another cult-of-personality such as a Hitler.


Too late for that!!! We haven't had a regime chance since Reagan. We had daddy Bush in there for 8 years as Vice President then 4 years. President Clinton 8 years President and then JR. Bush president for 8 years and now possibly back to Clinton. Lets not forget that Reagan took over Carters position yet he's still out there stirring trouble and running his mouth!!!! So as you can see they really don't leave or change anything!!!! They just ALL continue to work together!!!!!


reply posted on 4-6-2008 @ 12:13 PM by Shar
So as you can see they continue this until Obama Clinches Nomination.

Why though? This is very scary! I have a thoughts on this that I’d rather keep as thoughts at this point.

I will just say this, this IS NOT GOOD FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE! My Country, the Country that I love will be no more!
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