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Topic started on 20-5-2008 @ 07:07 AM by Outlawstar
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I looked up to the sky recently above my house and spotted this, whether its normal or not I dont know, but Ive certainly never seen a contrail shaped
like this.
Also it seemed to dissapear eerily fast(Im talking seconds, and glow somewhat .
Any ideas?
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 08:08 AM by prevenge
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looks like....
freaking chromosomes....??
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 08:14 AM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by prevenge
looks like....
freaking chromosomes....??
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Yeah like DNA or something, never seen anything like it before in the sky though.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 08:20 AM by OzWeatherman
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Its caused when a contrail is created or passes through a turbulent air parcel mixing it and twisting it.
Nothing unusual about it but a good indication of atmospheric instability
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 08:41 AM by RabbitChaser
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Its caused when a contrail is created or passes through a turbulent air parcel mixing it and twisting it.
Nothing unusual about it but a good indication of atmospheric instability

Ummm... yah... you meant "chemtrail," right?
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 08:49 AM by OzWeatherman
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Yeah....errr....I mean no
Damn now you know Imworking for the government spreading disinfo
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 08:59 AM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Yeah....errr....I mean no
Damn now you know Imworking for the government spreading disinfo
[edit on 20/5/2008 by OzWeatherman] 
Thanks for the info, I know Ive heard of this producing helical structures, but not double helixs, could be wrong though.
Oh and as for atmospheric instability.
Im pretty sure there are chemtrails sprayed around my are on a fairly rgular basis, thoug again, I could be wrong.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 08:59 AM by Spaxz
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If it is a chem-trail, they are only using it to control the weather. "scale down hurricanes, cyclones, create havoc on enemy's before you attack,
ect,.." just another way we try to play god, and make more weapons. Chem-trails aren't exsactly healthy but atleast this weapon there producing is
on ourside, if we were the enemy we might have to worry abit.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 09:24 AM by weedwhacker
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Folks....it is most assuredly NOT a 'chemtrail'...sorry
Oz is correct...although the instability he mentions is the normal wake turbulence pattern that has affected the contrails. The wake turbulence
vortices normally settle down about 300 feet below the path of the airplane...but if the airmass is descending, and the airplane is maintaining
altitude, then the vortices could interact with the contrails to form those corkscrews...
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 09:41 AM by pikypiky
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So, what is the scientific term to describe the anomalous clouds in these photos? Corkscrews? Vortex? I'm having a hard time pulling up online images
to compare with the original photos of this thread.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 10:29 AM by TreX-UK
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Did read that Aurora left Contrails in a "corkscrew" patten
my first thoughts when seeing that
but as some one said Warm air underneath one of the contrails sounds more logical
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 10:44 AM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by TreX-UK
Did read that Aurora left Contrails in a "corkscrew" patten
my first thoughts when seeing that
but as some one said Warm air underneath one of the contrails sounds more logical 
Agreed though I would like some actual proof as to the formation process of such corkscrews, oh and I thought of the aurora too^^
Although I think thats supposed to leave weird doughnut shaped trails,anyway thats for another thread.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 10:52 AM by weedwhacker
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Yes!! Outlaw, the weird 'doughnut' shapes from Aurora are probably due to the propulsion system....trying to remember what people are
supposing...there is a concept called a 'scramjet'....no moving parts, but requires some other more convential propulsion to accelerate to the high
Mach speeds required for 'scram' to work...but, that's pretty old technology, maybe 20 years....I'm sure there's more T/S stuff by now...
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 10:56 AM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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Yes!! Outlaw, the weird 'doughnut' shapes from Aurora are probably due to the propulsion system....trying to remember what people are
supposing...there is a concept called a 'scramjet'....no moving parts, but requires some other more convential propulsion to accelerate to the high
Mach speeds required for 'scram' to work...but, that's pretty old technology, maybe 20 years....I'm sure there's more T/S stuff by now...

Youre right it is to do with the propulsion system, I think its some form of electromagnetic powered thing, not too sure.
I actually saw these near my house too but didint take a pic unfortunatly.
The doughnut shapes seemed to be only on one side of the contrail.Looked very odd.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 11:18 AM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Its caused when a contrail is created or passes through a turbulent air parcel mixing it and twisting it.
Nothing unusual about it but a good indication of atmospheric instability

I agree this can happen and have seen it before though never in such a consistent, tight form.
I cant find any images of this type of double helical formation, only helical........hmmmm.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 11:36 AM by Outlawstar
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Oh and while youre here Weed Whacker, Im wondering do you think its normal for "contrails" to form a thin wispy sheet of cover that literally
stratches as far as the eye can see, because thats exactly what happens over my area on a regular basis, including right now.
I know you dont want to believe in chemtrails but you must admit they are at least plausible, in fact if Im not mistaken the British Government have
admitted to spraying chemicals on the population to see how they would react to them.(Ill try and find the source for that info.
They have the mindset to do it, thats for sure.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 06:28 PM by firepilot
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Originally posted by Outlawstar
Oh and while youre here Weed Whacker, Im wondering do you think its normal for "contrails" to form a thin wispy sheet of cover that literally
stratches as far as the eye can see, because thats exactly what happens over my area on a regular basis, including right now.
I know you dont want to believe in chemtrails but you must admit they are at least plausible, in fact if Im not mistaken the British Government have
admitted to spraying chemicals on the population to see how they would react to them.(Ill try and find the source for that info.
They have the mindset to do it, thats for sure. 
Thats actually what cirrus usually is, thin wispy ice crystals. Nature makes it a the time, airplanes can make it sometimes too.
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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 12:57 AM by Outlawstar
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Originally posted by firepilot
Originally posted by Outlawstar
Oh and while youre here Weed Whacker, Im wondering do you think its normal for "contrails" to form a thin wispy sheet of cover that literally
stratches as far as the eye can see, because thats exactly what happens over my area on a regular basis, including right now.
I know you dont want to believe in chemtrails but you must admit they are at least plausible, in fact if Im not mistaken the British Government have
admitted to spraying chemicals on the population to see how they would react to them.(Ill try and find the source for that info.
They have the mindset to do it, thats for sure. 
Thats actually what cirrus usually is, thin wispy ice crystals. Nature makes it a the time, airplanes can make it sometimes too.

I see what youre saying, thoug having looked it up, Im noticing distinc visual differences between the two, Im not discounting anything though.
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