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I for one think this is one of the best things I have ever seen in my time here.
I guess this will shut down at least 1 of the biggest threads of recent times. Not to mention going a long way to shutting down one of the biggest jokes of all time. I dont care why it was done but to crap all over the closest thing to evidence any Nibiruist has ever had is absolutely brilliant.
Now all we need is for Sitchin to sign up and confess his hoax and its game over!!!!
Originally posted by Agent Venom
Originally posted by Acidtastic
reply to post by Agent Venom
sorry,I know this is slightly off topic,but I'm asking anyway. is there anyone who's translated the sumarien text,that is a quallified ancient texty type person. And is it backed up with the proper support from the ancient texty type people community? And did he get it all wrong,or was it just the bits that make for uncomfortable reading?(I know nothing of the subject really,just a bunch of half assed info gathered from various interweb videos)
As I said in my previous post, any bit of probing of the relavent scholarly literature will provide light on the actual meaning and content of these texts. Sitchin basis his whole thesis around one Sumerian cylinder ceal in particular, VA 243, picture below.
Sitchin claims the diagram in the upper left depicts our solar system, complete with all the planets plus an extra one, Nibiru, with the sun in the center. Again, this is out and out false. The symbol does not depict our solar system with the sun in the center at all. In simplest terms, the alleged "sun" in the upper left corner of the seal isn't a sun, and so the artwork doesn't depict the sun and our solar system. It's a STAR. We know this because of the consistent sun iconography of Sumero-Mesopotamian art. In case you're thinking, "well the sun is a star", the Sumerians and Mesopotamians distinguished these bodies in their artwork.
Here's the normal sun symbol of Sumero-Mesopotamian art:
Note: The sun symbol always has either four arms plus wavy lines extending from a "ball" in the middle, or it is a ball with wavy lines. VA 243 has no wavy lines. It does not depict the sun.
Below are examples of star symbols. Stars could have 6, 7, or 8 pts. in Sumero-Mesopotamian art (VA 243 has six):
One of the most common artistic motifs in Sumero-Mesopotamian art is the depiction of sun, crescent moon, and star TOGETHER, side by side. This shows they distinguished the symbols (and these bodies. Hence, to a Sumerian, the symbol on VA 243 was not the sun:
star (L) moon (C) sun (R)
Note the wavy lines in the sun symbol; a wholly different style than VA 243.
Note again in the above the wavy lines in the sun symbol (lower right) as opposed to the star at the top; a wholly different style than VA 243. More of Sitchin's false translations and more on VA 243 can be found here:
I would also like to point out that Sitchin, as well as other people that believe his work, claim that the Sumerians knew of all the planets in the solar system, once again this is out and out false. The Sumerians did not have telescopes, and only knew of 5 planets (7 if one counts the sun and moon), Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn. They did not know of Uranus, Neptune or Pluto as Sitchin claims. Of the planets that lay beyond Saturn (namely, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto) the ancients show no sign of having been aware of them. Uranus was only discovered and named in the post-telescope era by William Herschel in 1781. That goes doubly for Neptune or Pluto that lay beyond Uranus, and were discovered much later. None of those three planets show up on any known pre-Galilean sky charts.