I don’t really know much about this Nibiru thing but from what I can understand from the premise of this story, the planet houses aliens whom are the Annunaki. The planet reaches earth once every 3600 years and will reach us soon in 2012…..

Apparently the aliens are manipulating their planet’s course so it remains exactly between earth and the sun so it’s impossible to see…….

It all sounds like complete BS

Whilst I'm still on the bench,I can see it is a plausable theory. I mean,we're floating around in a rather violent enviroment,let's not forget. There are stars and other large bodies flying round space all the time. Also,if this is a red dwarf star,it will be hard to see. The sky you see at night is chock full of red dwarf stars,but you can see them,cos they don't give off enough light. I'm not sure of hte numbers,so I'll make it up but there's about 5 times the ammount of stars in the sky that you should be seeing,if they were all brighter stars. Couple that with the cold fact that something,has been wiping races off this earth one by one,throughout our history. Maybe this is the reason? It's as good a reason as any. (IMO) Space is not excactly a quiet place.

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not just the spelling,I put whole wrong words in!!

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Nibiru is a myth, perpetrated and made popular by people such as Zecharia Sitchin. First, let me dispel the widely believed idea that Sitchin is a scholar of Sumerian and Akkadian. NO! HE IS NOT! He taught himself these languages and it shows. His translations are a joke and anyone who really studies cuneiform can see right through his amateur mistakes. A true scholar works and participates in his field. Sitchin has done absolutely no profitable or published work on Sumerian or Akkadian philology. With his books Sitchin has far outdone himself through fantasy, rhetoric and imagination. His claim is that there is a twelth body in our solar system (counting moon and sun), whose orbit brings it into the solar system every few thousand years. He claims that intelligent beings from this planet implanted earth with life, which is revealed in ancient texts. To put it bluntly, anyone who has been taken by this has been dupped. I mean no disrespect, but Sitchin's claims are not only physically impossible, but his scholarship is damnable. While some claim that he "is one of the first to read cuneiform," this is out and out false. The early decipherers of cuneiform were G. Grotefend, H. Rawlinson, E. Hincks, W. Talbot and J. Oppert and they were able to decipher the script based on the text copied by Rawlinson at Behistun. The decipherment was deemed complete in 1857 when independent translations of an unpublished text from the time of Tiglath-Pileser were compared. Sumerian, which Sitchin claims to know (even being called a Sumerologist), is still a more troublesome matter. While written in the cuneiform script, the earliest texts (ca. 3000 BCE) are written mostly in logograms with very little grammatical information indicated so their interpretation is more difficult. Later copies (ca. 2000-1000), are written with more syllabic signs, thus indicating more of the grammar. In any case, Sitchin has never received any formal training in Sumerology or Assyriology - he is an autodidact. His translations and use of archaeology are faulty and confused. Any bit of probing of the relavent scholarly literature will provide light on the actual meaning and content of these texts. There is no conspiracy in the scholarly community to withhold this information - it is simply erroneous. Believe me, scholars would love it if it were true. It would put their names in the paper and they would actually sell books. Actual archaeology and textual translation are somewhat more mundane, but still fascinating. Don't be fooled! Sitchin couches his follies in academic jargon, but his books should be read as fiction! Sitchin's whole series of books on the 12th Planet/Ancient Aliens idea is a perfect example of someone who comes up with an outrageous theory, then works backwards to make the facts fit. Particularly amusing are the moments when he falls into the "if it looks like a space helmet, it must be a space helmet" trap (the Chariots of the Gods delusion) and Sitchin does it constantly. Many of the fans of his books who've raved about it here have used phrases like "if you have an open mind." Well, being open minded is one thing. Being utterly gullible is another. Sitchin is aiming at the gullible, with whom he seems to be hitting bullseyes.

The Planet X/Nibiru myth was also made popular by Nancy Lieder in the late 1990's when she predicted it would return in 2003, when it didn't she claimed it was a "little white lie" given to her by the Zetans (aliens which she claims to be talking to who give her all sorts of information regaring Planet X/Nibiru) and the "little white lie" was given to her to confuse the elites! I could go on and on about this topic and how it is complete and utter rubbish, as well as the peddlers behind it. As I stated in another thread, I have been studying and researching this matter since the 2003 date of Nibiru's so-called "fly by of earth" and I have not found a single shred of evidence to prove this mythical planet/star exists.

Originally posted by Acidtastic
Couple that with the cold fact that something,has been wiping races off this earth one by one,throughout our history.

You mean something other than a staggering amount of time, and evolution?

But to answer the question aksed in the thread title,I'm fascinated by lots of spaced based conspiracy theories. I certainly don't believe them all,but all of it interests me. This is one of the "end of the world" ones,so it holds a special place in my heart.

Bravo, very good thread, starred and flagged. I was going to start one like this myself, but I've been a bit busy...

This Nibiru junk needs to be sorted. Whenever some new, and obviously faked, YouTube video gets posted, the Planet X (hey, I thought it was a star!) believers say 'ZOMG, it's teh truth!!!'

There's really nothing plausible about it whatsoever. NONE. It's a complete myth. Just off the top of my head it has these problems:

1. If it was going to be here by 2012, which maybe sounded like a long time when the myth first started the rounds, is now only four years away. FOUR YEARS! That's a trip roughly twice the distance to Mars - so, by that logic, it should at least be that far away. So why can't we SEE it?

2. The idea that it's a complete star system with a civilization around it. I don't where to begin with that one - that's like saying the Amish all have iPods or something (I don't know, you do a better synonym!)

4. Timescale - If you're lucky, you'll live for about 80 or so years. That's less than HALF the time it takes for Neptune to make one full orbit of the Sun. And they're expecting this massive dead star to be in here in four years? Please... Our lifespan is incredibly short, there is nil chance of any of this stuff happening. I'm sure the 2012 crowd are only making this junk up to make themselves sound important, like they have this secret information, to give themselves some sense of importance, when really they're wasting their short time here.

3. A large body that close to Earth would already be having enormous effects. Even if it was a long way out, something like that wouldn't go un-noticed.

Of course, Nibiru people would say that it has some 'cloaking device' so that we can't see it yet - what a convenient explanation! No proof required for that idea.

Having said all of that, there is a slight chance that there could be a large body, maybe a dimly lit dwarf star (some call it 'Nemesis'), hiding some place beyond the Oort cloud. But that's only a theory, and a shaky one - the Oort cloud itself huge, it extends about 1 light year from the Sun in all directions, so whatever is out there, it won't be doing anything to us in any of our life times, or even in the timescale that the human race has left to go.


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One question for the disciples of Sitchin:

If this was such a mind boggling amazing scenario for the Sumerians, how come its only a little picture shoved in the corner of one tablet?

Why does everyone claim that Nibiru is returning in 2012? even if you disagree with Sitchin's the man has never made claims about the year 2012.

The 2012 end-of-the-world-prophecy comes from research done on the Mayan calendar, not Zecharia Sitchin.

Thank you all for your input. As I guessed the closest we have here to a Nibiruist or PXer are those still undecided looking for info. (Keep reading guys, it gets better)

I have also seen here some new info that I will keep in mind for future refernce. Amazing how the only new stuff that get brought up here debunks the myth. There is never enything new to support it.

I have just clarified for myself based on the number of views that the just mention of the word Nibiru brings 'em in like seagulls on a hot chip!!! Although there are not alot of posts here which I really dont mind a bit. The main point I wanted to make was the fact that people need to have a look anyway. Its not a bad thing. I do it an will continue doing it as I am sure many of us will.

P.S. Oz, your thread was already listed in the OP. Hope you dont mind the free ad...