Siegleman: 'This Will Make Watergate Look Like Child's Play'

Yeah, Karl Rove is victim of a witch hunt..

ya know what, if congress calls you, nay subpoenas you.. you are obligated as a citizen of this country to appear. regardless of whatever may be your disposition at the moment.
but Karl Rove is above the law, and all you uber patriots sticking up for him are not PATRIOTS at all but mere party LOYALISTS, with your allegiance to the king. sham patriots make me sick and anyone defending Karl Rove has the sensibilities of a crocodile. encoded pea brains..

when Clinton was in office, i wanted him accountable for his actions consistently, because i held the rule of law in this land above all. and for the few rules that this president has yet to abolish or distort in his favor,.. being unable to play with the deck as stacked as it is.. revolting.

not sure what you mean by 'encoded pea brains', but I agree one hundred percent with everythign else. I fail to see why they aren't arresting his ass and bringing him to the court in cuffs like they would anyone else they subpoena who refuses to show up. It's not as if pulling Karl Rove out of the white house for two hours to testify leaves the nation void of anything whatsoever. This is ridiculous.

Your Office Space reference was noted and approved of

And agreed with.

Too Little Too Late

The absolute corruption of the American Political process is complete.
Siegelman having received the bums rush from office and prison sentence should be on notice that there is very little that this administration will not to do to preserve and entrench the power it wields illegally. Yeah I said it..I truly believe that George Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, Ari Fleisher, Condi Rice, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Dick Cheney and OTHERS are in a large part complicit in a conspiracy which has risen to treasonous levels..and the utter debasement of their sworn oath of office.
The death of Debra Palfrey and other convenient accidents and suicides, the Jeff Gannon Talon News story that gained no traction in the mainstream press, all of the 9/11 investigation facts that are unreported unexplained and ignored.
I don't know what to say..we give our leaders the tools to protect and promote democracy and they turn the tools against the people they swear to protect.
I give the President and his cabinet the absolute best of intentions,but at some point the signing statements and the convenient legislation and sidesteping of the Constitution and OUT RIGHT LIES beggar belief.
History may not be kind to George Bush..but history will be UNKINDER TO ALL OF US.. because WE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. WE ALLOW THIS.
No Ifs No ands & No Buts

this guy just got out of prison and he is making threats because he is so pee 'oed and now wants revenge

this one is going nowhere fast.

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You do realize that you are quoting a convicted person right? Way to go there. Everybody is Jail is innocent don't ya know.

As per your own article:



He doesn't have any axes to grind now, does he?


Blimp beat me to it, got to type faster next time.





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It seems you are directing your reply to me so I will reply back: I'm not an "UBER" patriot. I'm a US citizen who is sick to death of what my government has done, is doing and, will do.

You have not and will not see me defend Rove OR Siegleman. They are "UBER" evil politicians why in the f*k would I side with the same people running my country into the ground?

I agree the jerk needs to be grilled.
If I had it my way every level headed, nationalist, indipendant, libertarian and, PATRIOT would join GOOOH and clean up the country. But all everyone wants to do is sit around bitch and moan about how horrible all the politicians are. I don't see anyone (but myself and a few others) standing up and doing something to make a change.

It is my whole hearted belief that we have to much government. We need less. At present we are headed for more. But I'm a peahead WTF do I know, right?

Lone Star,
Not directed at you. Your comments before were logical, not deflecting, and not hyperbole rhetoric, and your last statement and acknowledgement of guilty parties here shows that the shoe does not fit.. Moreso directed at the other predictable, my party can do no wrong cheerleaders.


And as far as Siegelman having an ax to grind..
indeed, its called justice. Indicted for appointing an associate to a hospital board.
His appointee, who paid not Siegelman, but an education lottery fund that Siegelman supported but would never reap a penny of, was given a post that he had held from the appointments of the three previous governors.
All senior judiciary members that were not Bu#es deemed all the charges against Siegelman without merit.. Only corrupt justice dept pushed this through..

do your homework and read up on this, theres enough out there to realize that this is a true subversion of the democratic process that is intended to make this country successful.

reply to post by fvk12

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Thank you. Sorry for my misunderstanding. I've never claimed to be the sharpest knife in the drawer. I'm here to learn and I have to admit sometimes I just don't get it. So please forgive me.

I can say I've learned one thing from this discussion: I'm right when I say that the government and it's politicians are corrupt and; they think they are above the law. Like a bunch of Lindsey Hoehans and Paris Motel 6's...


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Because we are all so sure that Karl Rove is indeed a criminal it's hard to not to believe the worse!



But if it were true how would that compare to the crimes of Karl Rove? Why shouldn't African Americans still be resentful/angry on some levels for the crimes white America committed against them or their parents? Why on Earth would any fair minded person wish to pretend that somehow whites have now become victims of 'African American racism' when they never had the power to abuse their fellow countrymen so horrendously? While i do understand why oppressors everywhere ( just like in this country) wish to pretend that the playing field have suddenly been 'levelled' , with historic wrongs somehow having been suddenly righted without whites doing any type of restitution, i always feel disgusted when they seem otherwise intelligent and educated.

Stellar

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So a convicted Democrat politician insists Rove had him convicted? You guys are living a delusion. Convicts always say they didn't do it and always want to point at someone else as the reason they're incarcerated. Wake up and smell the roses, this is a witch hunt and a wild goose chase. If you want to hang your hats on it with glee that the evil Karl Rove will finally go down then you'll be sadly disappointed!

www.boingboing.net...

Piercing pioneer Jim Ward, who in 1975 launched what is now considered America's first contemporary body piercing business (The Gauntlet), remembers Louis "Indy" Rove, an early body modification enthusiast who is identified as the adoptive father of Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove. The elder Mr. Rove had (at least) 37 piercings, most of which were in his genitals, all performed by Mr. Ward.

You might be suprised to learn the deciders grandpa was a Nazi sympathizer and helped to plot a coup against Roosevelt.

Document uncovers details of a planned coup in the USA in 1933 by a group of right-wing American businessmen.
The coup was aimed at toppling President Franklin D Roosevelt with the help of half-a-million war veterans. The plotters, who were alleged to involve some of the most famous families in America, (owners of Heinz, Birds Eye, Goodtea, Maxwell Hse & George Bush’s Grandfather, Prescott) believed that their country should adopt the policies of Hitler and Mussolini to beat the great depression.

Just a sample of the types you conservatives go out of your way to defend beyond all reason.




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And just to add a bit of history.... Nixon resigned under the advisement of a letter sent to him by GHW Bush stating to think of what an impeachment would do to the country and to the image of the Republican Party. President Ford, after order of succession on Nixon's resignation, later appointed GHW Bush to Director of CIA. A young Hilary Rodham (not yet Clinton) sat on the prosecution side at the Nixon Impeachment proceedings, of course she wrote a legal brief stating that Nixon had no legal precedence to legal council. This brief was also written in such a way that it would have disallowed House Judiciary Committee to cross-examine witnesses or even participate in drafting articles of impeachment in the first place. Also in 1974, McCain was released from the Hanoi Hilton. Obama was attending an elite private prep school in Hawaii at age 13 and living with his grandparents...his grandmother was the vice-president of the Bank of Hawaii while his mother was off working on a PhD, which is also the time that he and his mother was supposed to be on food stamps to get by, according to Barack???

Yeah, the circle is nearly complete…suddenly the whole 2012 thing doesn’t sound so far-fetched after dealing with a term with any of these people in the big chair.



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"Just a sample of the types you conservatives go out of your way to defend beyond all reason."

This is an oxymoron, so to speak. Conservatives would never defend anyone who wants to do away with constitutional rights and freedoms. This is, obviously, what would happen should the coup had been sucessful.

What I find the most strange about this accusation is - when you try to find info on this subject - all the website are all very left winged and liberal. Hummm

Also if this was so true why didn't this come out in EITHER of the two elections he won?

Well, looks like Rove is not going to get out of this as easy as he hoped. Conyers issued a subpoena on him today to FORCE him on the stand!

rawstory.com...

Hopefully the corrupt DOJ won't be co-complicitory with Rove here...

While I think Stephanopolous is a little dirt-bag, corrupted media shill, I do have to say that this interview was interesting...Notice that Rove is not denying whether he was or was not involved in getting Siegelman incarcerated...Getting rid of the competition and dissenters through any means necessary, eh Karl?




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Yet conservatives also include the neo-cons, who are infamous for destroying the Constitution. Can you explain that?

And yes, this is true. What isn't true is that Bush won the elections. He stole both elections and in 2000, the Supreme Court decided the election, something that is very much unconstitutional. See Black Box Voting - also our own Government Accounting Office declared that the 2004 election was stolen.

And of course, the right wing would not put Bush's family history on a website. But it is documented, alot, and Bush's grandfather was charged with trading with the enemy. And yes, he was involved in a coup to overthrow FDR, this is all documented as well - in fact the entire coup is documented in Gen. Smedley Butler's "War is a Racket". He was the one the elites asked to replace FDR. There was a trial about it, this is documented as well.

On topic: Siegelman was set up by Karl Rove so yes, naturally, he wants to see Rove get his just desserts. It was a huge scandal over state attorney generals, but of course you won't read about that in the MSM.

Hmm, seems the House Judiciary Commitee is contemplating ARRESTING Rove to force him to the stand! That would be awesome to see him shuffling up to the stand in cuffs and leg shackles...haha




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