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Originally posted by Euroche
He holds the chaos of Boris Yeltsin's tenure as a good period in Russian history. He then holds oligarchs like Khodorovsky as proponents of democracy and human rights - just as he was in the process of trying to sell off to Cheney and co.
Originally posted by Euroche
If Putin has autocratic tendencies he has gone about using them in the right way.
Originally posted by TheComte
I don't recall any journalists in the US begin murdered for speaking out against the government.
I haven't heard of any US proponents of democracy being thrown in jail.
Maybe you could enlighten me if you know anything to the contrary.
Originally posted by dave420
reply to post by Bunch
Are you saying Putin is just like Chavez? Really? Do you know that little about Russia and Venezuela?
Originally posted by mybigunit
Centurion I we dont agree much but I agree here. Putin is a disgrace and a mafia leader.
Anyone who is against him he picks off.
I have said this before I have my issues with my country but I can at least say whats on my mind and not worry about getting killed where as in Russia there have been reporters getting picked off left and right.
I think this is why Bush and him are boys.
They both self loath in their evil selves. They are both evil people and looking out for their own interest and not that of the people.
Originally posted by StellarX
But the poor are eating more than they used to while the middle classes expands as oil and natural resource wealth are redirected to the people. This all while the average US citizen works ever more hours to gain the same income...
So , comparatively speaking, what did Putin do that comes close to the recent US foreign adventures? In fact what did the USSR do that comes close to the abuses of the US national security state during the cold war?
But things got better for Russians under Putin while they got worse for Americans under Bush? I am not sure that Putin has far more support than Bush ( neither won by landslides or had massive voter turnouts) and i must admit that comparatively speaking it was much easier to raise living standards in Russian than it was to do so in the USA. That being said it was clearly never the intent of Bush and the gang to do anything beneficial for average Americans while Putin and Chavez clearly had such things in mind.
Another interesting question arises if one proposes to shift Putin to the US and Bush to the RF . Under the constraints of the US constitutional/judicial + US armed forces would Putin have tried what he did in Russia and what might Bush and his friends have done with the quite extensive armaments and less well ingrained judicial/governments processes in Russia? So my feeling is basically that both Chavez and Putin would have been suitable restrained in the US system and would comparatively have done far more for Americans than Bushco did. Since it's feeling , it not unsupported, i would appreciate it if you frame your response in that way.