To first get a good impression how the situation at 9/11 was at the Citgo gas station, I present to you the following drawings and photos, and then
the Citgo video.
After that, some questions arising will be addressed.
To begin with, this is a drawing of 9/11 Citgo security camera views made by Adam Larson based on John Farmers drawing and some Google Earth views
It can be found here :
He has another drawing posted here, and that one is an original drawing of John Farmer, who visited the Citgo gas station in 2007 to get a personal
This is John Farmers drawing :
The following small screenshot comes from the website from Scott Bingham and in fact from the FBI-released Citgo video, and is shown in, by now,
well-known bad video quality from YouTube :
And is taken from the Citgo security camera multiplexer screen at 09:40:38 screen displayed time ( look just above the bold-printed word SUN in the
below picture ) :
This following bigger screenshot comes from Adam Larson's AVI-quality video-copy from the Judicial Watch tape, and is taken at 09:40:35 screen
That's three seconds earlier than the above pictured flash at 09:40:38.
It shows the two thin dark spots on the road, to the left of the right, dark colored, roof upholding pole, in the Single Pump Side camera view nr 4
(the second small screen, left, down), and he still thinks, like he said in his recent posts, that these could be proof of a shadow of a plane :
The Flash lasts for many frames of the 29 frames/second of the video, see my analysis in an earlier thread.
All people and cars in the video react directly after the flash occurs.
The next photo's, again from Scott Bingham's site, are taken at the Citgo gas station, and give us a good impression where the windows and door were
situated in the North-West wall of the Citgo cashiers room, to be precise, the side looking North-West, at the Dual-Pump side.
Camera 3 at the Dual Pump Side W in the above shown Citgo video screen, gives an overall North-West view.
A good impression of the windows and doors in the South-East wall, the side looking South-East, must be found elsewhere. From camera view 7 (Register
2 view, the bottom-right by the FBI 3/4-obscured video window in the Citgo video); we can get a fairly good impression, combined with John Farmer's
This next photo is an overall view of the north side of the Citgo gas station :
This next one shows where precisely the double door and the adjacent 4 small windows were situated.
This next one shows how the tree's low foliage blocks first view to the Pentagon, when stepping outside.
The next one shows the position of the camera which shot the big screen video frames in the Citgo video :
This next one shows the very narrow view from the Sheraton Hotel top floor only, if at all possible from that floor.
We had some "witnesses" giving exact flight path details into the Pentagon, who did not rent a room on that floor.
I doubt you can see the Pentagon at all from the upper guest floors of that hotel, when you look at the following image.
As you can see clearly in this photo, the Navy Annex is the most impressive landmark building when looking in that direction, from the Citgo gas
station. It covers nearly all your angle of view and it is easy to say that a plane came flying from over the Annex, but then you still do not
implement at which side it passed the Citgo.
Could be south or north. All Graig's witnesses say they saw it to the north of Citgo. Which is the right side in this specific photo, seen from the
Pentagon, which stands behind the photographer?
On page 3 of the following John Farmer PDF, you can find a satellite photo of the Citgo gas station, with the North direction in it, and a few other
alignments to North :
The 113 degrees sun alignment is the position of the sun on 9/11 at the time when the Pentagon attack took place. Deduced by John Farmer, from the
roof line shadows in the Citgo-video, I suppose.
This is a view of the NW-corner of the Dual Pump side of the Citgo roof, with a clear view of the spot where the FBI-removed camera was situated on
It is coming from this CIT page :
This is an ATS thread from Craig Ranke with interesting Citgo pictures and text :
This is a view of the Single Pump side, the SE-side of the Citgo :
And another view from there, with the official, purple lined south-side flight path in it :
And this is a Birdseye’s view of the area looking from SW to NE, red line is official south path, blue line is north path discovered by the PentaCon
We can read an interview with a manager of the Citgo gas station on duty on 9/11, Jose Velasquez :
December 11, 2001
Three months ago, on September 11 at 9:38 a.m., a Tuesday, Jose Velasquez heard the rumble of imminent death overhead. "I knew something was wrong.
The planes come more from the north and west [to land at Reagan National Airport] not from the south. And not so low."
He was talking on the telephone that morning to a friend who was feeding him gauzy reports about airplane crashes at the World Trade Center in
New York. But Velasquez slammed down the receiver and raced outside when he felt the gas station he supervises suddenly begin to
tremble from a too-close airplane.
"It was like an earthquake," the Costa Rican native said last week. What Velasquez felt above him almost within touching distance was
American Airlines Flight 77 just seconds before impact.
His gas station, open only to Department of Defense personnel, is the last structure between the Pentagon and the hillside that, hours later, would
become a wailing knoll. "By the time I got outside all I could see was a giant cloud of smoke, first white then black, coming from the Pentagon," he
said. "It was just a terrible, terrible thing to be so close to."
Velasquez says the gas station's security cameras are close enough to the Pentagon to have recorded the moment of impact. "I've never seen what the
pictures looked like," he said. "The FBI was here within minutes and took the film."
Source : news.nationalgeographic.com...
A few quite important details surface from this witness interview, when we combine it with the Citgo video released by the FBI, with their added-in
obscured cover-up bands over parts of it.
The YouTube Citgo video version can be found here :
Please do try to find any non-YouTube versions, preferably Windows Media versions, since those YouTube videos are far too granular to be able to see
Just before the 4:44 Flash-moment in the Windows Media Player .AVI video version obtained by Judicial Watch, we can see Jose Velasquez behind his
cashier register (FBI obscured view from camera nr 6, bottom left window, in the composite Citgo video window) talking on his telephone, just as he
said so in the above interview, standing there while looking to his left side, where the glass door and the four smaller glass windows are to the
right of that door. That door and windows look out to the North-West, at the Dual Pump side of the gas station, the side where sergeant Lagasse was
filling up his patrol car's gas tank at that moment. Lagasse is seen in-between his police car and the pump housing.
Velasquez reacted on the sudden trembling of his gas station, as he told us above.
This reaction of running toward a door happens directly after we observe that famous flash at the North side.
He ran outside as he said above, and we can see him rushing through the camera view nr 7 bottom right Citgo video window, out of the cashier’s desk
area, and to the glass door on the other, South East side of the shop.
Together with a few other guests or personnel. Some of them gather at the door, some of them go outside through that door.
See all above posted drawings and photo's to understand the view points from inside the Citgo shop.
And then a few questions and possible answers will come up to investigating minds :
A. Why is the instinctive reaction of a few people inside the Citgo building, to rush to the right side, to the South East door? (See the Register Two
1. Because there were already people standing there, who had their car left at that side, and probably shouted from surprise.
2. Because that door offers the best unobstructed view of the explosion point at the Pentagon West wall, and especially Citgo personnel knew that from
long time experience.
3. Because the other NW left side door's outside view, to the right side, toward the Pentagon, is obstructed by a big tree with low hanging, full
foliage. And at that time, by an elevated road behind the Citgo, in-between the station and the Pentagon. Citgo personnel also knew that fact for a
long time already, so would instinctively option for the other door.
B. Why do we see at least two persons inside, obviously visitors (see the Register One view), as the first ones
of all inside the shop, rush to
the left side door, the North-West door?
1. Because they had their car left at that side.
2. Because they had the best view of the event that caused that Flash at 09:40:38 (video time stamp) or 4:44 (Windows Media time stamp of the video),
which in that case was not an impact flash, since that would have been obstructed by the foliage of the tree and the elevated road along the parking
spaces behind the Citgo at that time (it's now leveled down!). It could however have been the reflection of sunlight off the shiny fuselage of a huge
plane flying low and passing the Citgo at the North side.
The first drawing in this post shows the position of the tree quite well; its foliage obstructed any view towards the Pentagon for the first few
meters coming out from the Citgo shop.
And I repeat it again, we can't see any clear reflections at BOTH pump sides on the shiny surfaces of the pump housings or the canopies, from an
alleged explosion at the Pentagon, circa 500 meters, half a kilometer away.
And especially not, around the 4:44 time stamp in the Citgo video.
It was a very bright and sunny day, which would obscure for that matter, most of the light from flash effects, from an explosion half a kilometer
C. I would like to ask if some members have better screens and equipment than mine, to make screenshots of the moments around and after the flash in
the Citgo video, so we can have a better view of the head movements of the cashiers and the people inside, at the moments before, during and after
You can use the feature in Windows Media, to slow down the video speed to at least 50% slower.
I once had a 24 inch screen, which gave much better sharpness then a 19 inch screen, and I could see more details in the Citgo video from Judicial
Watch with the 24 inch one.
Those modern widescreen plasma and TFT screens will probably have even better detailing capabilities.
D. CIT should try to find and interview Jose Velasquez, and while showing him the Citgo video, ask him to clarify from memory, what his head movements
were, and those from other cashiers at that flash moment, or at Adams 2 thin shadow moments, 3 seconds earlier.
We should all try to find affirmative proof in the Citgo video, that people in the position to see the flash, reacted on that flash by looking to the
North, or South first.
This will only be a small achievement, compared to the people who have the guts, time and endurance (and willing to spend costs) to go interview
witnesses on the spot,
like the crew from CIT ( www.thepentacon.com...
Russell Pickering ( www.pentagonresearch.com...
John Farmer, and the guys from Loose Change.
But it could hopefully shine some more light on what exactly happened, and when exactly, at the Pentagon on 9/11.