reply to post by pakkiflytillhigh
I have to say thanks for the reply, you are the first Muslim on the thread who has been willing to make some honest comment about their beliefs.
You say "There is nothing in honor killings. What honor is there in killing a soul?"
When I talk about honor killings, I am referring to fathers having their daughters killed, physically not spiritually, not their soul but their
physical bodies, or killing their daughters themselves because their daughters adopted western ways or fell in love with non-muslims. You can find
stories about these honor killings with a simple web search.
If you must get the approval of your father, then who you marry really isn't your choice. If someone lives in fear that their family would kill them
should they marry outside of their religion, then they do not have the freedom to marry who they choose. It seems that you would rather pretend that
things are one way, when in fact they are the other.
I don't know what you mean by soul killing. If killing a person is killing their soul, then what do you call the part that goes to heaven? This
could be interpreted in many ways, could you explain further?
What is disgraceful about two people from different cultures falling in love?
What does two people falling in love have to do with Mohammad's scientific predictions from the past. Are you aware that scientifically, the Middle
East, while once as region was among the most advanced civilizations in the world, since the rise of Islam, today is among the most primitive. This
doesn't say much for the teachings of Mohammad. It seems that Muslims would want to learn the ways of more successful cultures, instead of just
attempt to copy their technology.
I don't know how much people understand or fear, but I do think that the British people have every right to defend their way of life. It seems as if
you are saying that the British should allow Muslims to take over their government. The people of Brittain are far more free than the people who live
in Muslim controlled nations. You are sadly mistaken when you call the Brits tyrants. In addition, the people in Brittain have far better living
conditions. Maybe you don't believe this, but I know many people from many Muslim nations, and they agree that life is much better in western
These are not the the only problems that Muslims are creating in Europe. You should do some research on the internet and start to recognize how much
conflict exists between our two cultures. The problem you fail to recognize is that Islam is not respecting the ways of Westerners. When you say
that "We will respect your faith if you respect ours." Then you are saying that Muslims should have their own political and religious control when
they live in other nations, but yet you refuse the Israelis the same rights. Why shouldn't Israelis have control of the government in Israel? You
claim that a bunch of corrupt jews took Israel, but the Israelis have a different story. Being that you are so badly informed about the things that
Muslims are doing to non-muslims all over the world, I suggest you should maybe reconsider your opinion.
You claim that Muslims do not punish women who are rape victims, but you are wrong. Once again, these things are happening in the Muslim world
regularly. It seems that you are not very well informed about the things going on in the Muslim world. Also, a British woman was jailed for allowing
one of her students to name a teddy bear Mohammad. Do you recognize how foolish jailing this woman was, or do you just think it is foolish for a
child to name a teddy bear Mohammad? The stories of the problems with the rates of rape committed by Muslim men in Europe are also broadly published
and can easily be found on the internet.
It is a very important belief in the Western world that no one is above criticism, not even God, or Jesus Christ, or Mohammad. Freedom of speech
means that anyone can freely criticize what ever they want to criticize. If you want us to respect your beliefs, then you must respect ours.
With all these things that I have pointed, do you now understand why the Western world distrusts Islam?
If you don't think a woman's private parts should be looked at, then you shouldn't look. Aren't these things up to the people who are doing them.
Once again you are not respecting the faith of others. Many Muslim men who come to western nations enjoy going to the places where they can engage
in these activities, and then want to bad mouth western women, and disrespect western women. That is hypocrisy, and goes against the teaching of
Christ, who Muslims claim to respect. This explains why there are so many rapes committed by Muslims in Europe.
As far as the 11 sins in Islam go, do you recognize that some of them go against the beliefs of others? I suspect the first sin goes directly against
the beliefs of Buddhists. If you are not Islamic, obviously the second sin goes against your beliefs. Sins 3 and 5 through 10 makes sense, but sin
4, once again, sodomy should be up to the individuals who are doing the act. Then we come to sin 11.
"Whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption (done) in the Land it is as if he had slain humankind entirely. And whoever saves one
-it is as if he had saved humankind entirely."
Many believe a soul is immortal, why does this say soul, instead of a person, or simply whoever murders another? The term corruption leaves open a
vast array of possibilities for permitting the killing of another?
At least these answers you have given leave some ground for discussion, unlike the survey that started the thread. Obviously there are many conflicts
between the Muslim culture and western culture, and many other cultures as well. To pretend these differences do not exist is only making the ground
fertile for hostility.