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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 01:55 PM by Mr Green
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Look up ascension. Humans of the light. Chakra meditation (3rd eye). This should help you, you sound like your well on the way to me.
Once we start meditation we feel like we are in a state of meditation 70% of the day, this then becomes our normal state of being. Some people can not
cope with this or the energy it lets loose . Problems are faced along the way but there are many to help you, even here on ATS 
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:17 PM by Space_Ed
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One more thing that I should perhaps mention...
The drug DMT can apparently give some people out of body experiences and some people feel they talk to beings of some form. I smoked it twice recently
and preceded it with breathing meditation. Although there was nothing totally concrete that I could say that it was definately some form of contact
both times I felt quite an intimate female presence. I heard sounds that I have never ever heard before and to be honest it sounded like extremely
ethereal breathing sounds, kind of echoey and metallic sounding, I can't really describe it but very alien. The second time it felt like something
was talking to me in a language I didn't understand but had the feeling that some part of me got some sort of message but have no idea what the hell
the message was. The experiences were over quickly and as it is 20 pounds for one 15 minute trip I havn't had any since. But I think it is possible
that I did have some form of contact with something. There was this close female presence both times and it was definately the same person but noone I
actually know. Both times I heard the bizarre and magical breathing sounds. It was just the last time that I heard something that sounded like
talking. Not sure if this means anything significant.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:20 PM by Space_Ed
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 Originally posted by Mr Green
Look up ascension. Humans of the light. Chakra meditation (3rd eye). This should help you, you sound like your well on the way to me.
Once we start meditation we feel like we are in a state of meditation 70% of the day, this then becomes our normal state of being. Some people can not
cope with this or the energy it lets loose . Problems are faced along the way but there are many to help you, even here on ATS 
Awesome. Yeah that has helped. I will look those up. If I have any questions I will ask you as you seem to know whats what. Thanks
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:22 PM by Agent Venom
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Errrr, no wonder then dude, sheesh!
 DMT is a powerful hallucinogen originally sourced from the seeds of the yopo tree, but now produced synthetically as dimethyltryptamine. It is one
of a group of drugs known as short-acting tryptamines. DMT may be injected, but is more often smoked in a joint or pipe, often (though not always)
mixed with marijuana. It should be noted however that DMT is much more powerful than marijuana, provoking an intense experience.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:44 PM by Mr Green
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Originally posted by Agent Venom
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Errrr, no wonder then dude, sheesh!
DMT is a powerful hallucinogen originally sourced from the seeds of the yopo tree, but now produced synthetically as dimethyltryptamine. It is one
of a group of drugs known as short-acting tryptamines. DMT may be injected, but is more often smoked in a joint or pipe, often (though not always)
mixed with marijuana. It should be noted however that DMT is much more powerful than marijuana, provoking an intense experience.
Yes I have to agree. A similar drug is released naturally during deep meditation to a level that is required by the individual. If you then go take
extra on top god knows what your gonna experience. Ive had this conversation with many people about this drug and I reject all drug taking during
meditation. Whats the point your not experiencing a true spiritual enlightenment are you. This woman how do you know she was really there? Many things
contact you in deep natural meditation but drug enhanced you will not know if their for real, or maybe they are fro real but the whole experience is
masked.
Its up to you but ascension is no easy route and DMT is just gonna mess with your head. I know drugs get released naturally but you are in control,
whos to say you go on a bad trip and cant get out of it. An endless nightmare on the astral plane until the drug wears off??? I dont know Ive never
taken it, in fact Ive never taken any drugs so who am I to comment
en.wikipedia.org...
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:48 PM by Twisted-Inside-Out
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Space_Ed, it's natural, it means your meditations are going very well.
Keep at it 
EDIT: Just read that you used drugs, then maby I'm not so sure.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:49 PM by Agent Venom
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Originally posted by Space_Ed
The drug DMT can apparently give some people out of body experiences and some people feel they talk to beings of some form. I smoked it twice recently
and preceded it with breathing meditation.
This guy has just lost all credibility with that one statement as far as I'm concerned. 
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 02:58 PM by Mr Green
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If your serious about this and really do have a yearning to progress then
1 Stop Spinning!
2 Stop taking in light through your crown without balancing out the other 6 chakras - road to madness!
3 Stop taking DMT!
Report back to us when you've done this, if you still feel the same then you dont need these drugs. If you dont your not ascending! Ascending by the
way to me is nothing to do with 2012 or floating up into the sky its just about becoming aware. Its about awakening to the spiritual side that has
remained asleep for too long. Its not about planets colliding with the Earth in 2012 as far as Im concerned.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:07 PM by Space_Ed
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The DMT was months ago and I don't use drugs regularly at all. I am not trying to be a 'credible' anything. But there is no link between the DMT
and this new stuff.
Yeah I am pretty sure drugs don't aid meditation as I have read in a lot of places that the two don't go hand in hand. It was an experiment.
I am open to the possibility that I am crazy but I do not see any relationship between the things I have mentioned and the fact I have taken DMT
twice. I am prepared to believe that they are linked but I don't think that is a reasonable explanation.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:11 PM by Space_Ed
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Yeah Miss Green I agree that with drugs it is harder to separate illusion from reality and on the whole should not be used seriously for 'spiritual'
development (not that I know much about that). It was mainly just for fun but I thought I would mention it and no I have no idea whether or not those
things I experienced were real. I thought I would mention it.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:15 PM by Agent Venom
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Dude you just admitted to smoking it recently and then proceeded with your meditation and feeling strange, hearing weird sounds, a presence, something
talking to you in another language. You also mentioned about spinning around and feeling dizzy and then doing the meditation again. No wonder you have
'weird sensations in your head'.
As you stated in that post also: "One more thing that I should perhaps mention..." You should probably have mentioned that in your very first
post.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:23 PM by Space_Ed
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Originally posted by Agent Venom
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Dude you just admitted to smoking it recently and then proceeded with your meditation and feeling strange, hearing weird sounds, a presence, something
talking to you in another language. You also mentioned about spinning around and feeling dizzy and then doing the meditation again. No wonder you have
'weird sensations in your head'.
As you stated in that post also: "One more thing that I should perhaps mention..." You should probably have mentioned that in your very first
post.
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Okay... I do not want to get into an argument about how much psychedelic drugs affect your brain. I study pharmaceutical chemistry okay and I have a
good understanding of what drugs are and what they do.
I am not going to respond again to any negative comments about me smoking DMT because I am sure that I am the most qualified person here to say what
is and is not a good idea regarding drugs. The reason I started this thread has no link whatsoever to me smoking DMT. This is the last time I am going
to say this
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:26 PM by Space_Ed
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I would say that the gap between me smoking DMT and starting this meditation and getting this feeling in my head was about a month apart and the two
are totally unrelated.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:26 PM by Twisted-Inside-Out
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If it's not related to the DMT then I can say for sure it's a good thing.
If it is related to DMT I don't know if it is good or not having never taken that drug.
Some drugs are useful though IMHO.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:31 PM by Space_Ed
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Originally posted by Twisted-Inside-Out
If it's not related to the DMT then I can say for sure it's a good thing.
If it is related to DMT I don't know if it is good or not having never taken that drug.
Some drugs are useful though IMHO.
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Yay a reasonable comment No it is definately nothing to do with any form of drug.
I do think that drugs do have the potential to be useful i.e. impart wisdom and understanding but they should be used with caution. I feel that you
should always treat any form of mind altering chemical with a lot of respect and that you should also respect your body and allow your batteries to
recharge after an experience.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:36 PM by earthman4
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When I was 12 my stepmother gave me a rock of cocaine. After snorting lots of it I went outside and I was convinced that a star was trying to
communicate with me. Sorry, I don't remember which one. I knew there was an alien being that was trying to get through to me. I am 99.9% sure that it
was a drug induced delusion.
I will never snort anything up my nose again.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:38 PM by Space_Ed
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Originally posted by earthman4
When I was 12 my stepmother gave me a rock of cocaine. After snorting lots of it I went outside and I was convinced that a star was trying to
communicate with me. Sorry, I don't remember which one. I knew there was an alien being that was trying to get through to me. I am 99.9% sure that it
was a drug induced delusion.
I will never snort anything up my nose again.
Typical.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:41 PM by Twisted-Inside-Out
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Take some speed then go meditate... blows the mind (if you're will is strong enough resist getting up and moving that is).
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:43 PM by Space_Ed
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Originally posted by Twisted-Inside-Out
Take some speed then go meditate... blows the mind (if you're will is strong enough resist getting up and moving that is).
Lol I personally wouldn't do that but as amphetamines enhance awareness I can see how that could be helpful.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:47 PM by Agent Venom
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I think this kind of talk is against ATS rules, so I'm not getting involved with this thread anymore, it's a waste of time. If you're going to talk
about aliens, meditation, etc, and then bring drugs like DMT up and expect no-one to question it then I think you're on the wrong forum. Without
sounding like a complete A-hole I hope everything works out for you. Good luck.
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