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US Soldier Uses the Quran for Target Practice

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posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by spitefulgod
so stuff your comments up your ass Griff, money to a jewish charity is a whole lot better than money to Muslim one, in fact money to the Triads is a better bet.


And your true colors shine brightly for all to see.




posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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I'm an athiest so i thought Jews did Israel the return since 1948. Otherwise what is your point?



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by Infidel 101

_Phoenix_

Are you claiming that Islam has no ambitions for a Caliphate?


I'm claming that you are extremist spreading hatred. Just like the islamic extremists. It's not their religion, it's their extremism that causes problems. It doesn't matter what the religion is, every bad thing you see about muslims, is all about political agendas, political gains etc etc. Religion is just a tool they use.

There are over 1 BILLION muslims in the world, stuck in the middle of this chaos made by "POLITICAL" people.

You also use religion as a tool just like the extremists, so that you can spread hatred to those 1 billion people.

I just want to protect the innocent people who have nothing to do with this madness. Most muslims don't care about this politcal madness, they simply want to live in peace.


[edit on 20-5-2008 by _Phoenix_]



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:41 PM
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I was corrolating what someone else said about muslims having to give to muslim charity and it only serves muslims.

I have shown the same is true for jewish charities.

I just picked jewish because it is something I know. I'm sure there are other religious charities that only cater to their religion.

This is the last time I will hold your hand in understanding the flow of posts.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:42 PM
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Sorry Pheonix if my strong stance upsets your sensibilities but I see the wrong and i'm prepared to say it.

Turning your eyes away from a real problem does what? I have to share my land with a guy called Anjem Choudary. Google him.

I'll be damned if he and his ilk get there way.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:44 PM
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I am still waiting for the people in this video to say they are sorry..


Watch this and learn something



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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I watched the videos you listed. Kiddie prostitution seems to be a big problem there. The pimps were described as "Asian gangs". No other description that I caught. Do you have any further info on this?

The cops didn't seem to take this problem very seriously.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:55 PM
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I walked past the spot where the bus was ripped apart by the misunderstander of Islam detonating. Wasn't his fault of course.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:59 PM
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I think the enitre point of this has been missed and blown out of proportion. Yes there are extremists, yes they do bad things. Here is the problem with the news item. Some guy shooting up the Muslim holy book is not going to make the extremists and the radicals hate Americans even more. It is going to prove to the moderates of the society that the extremists and the radicals are right, that the west hates muslims. THAT is the group that you need to be worried about. Without the support of the moderate muslim commnuity and their own dislike for the radicals, the west will never gain the foothold they need to bring about change.

If I was a moderate muslim, that went out did my work, came home, enjoyed my family time, lived a very normal life, and happened to see the amount of vitriol spewed forth by some of the people here I would be astonished. It would not take much more convincing to believe that people in the West hated Muslims. If you want to be objective about it read back through this thread and replace Muslim or Arab, or one of the derogatory remarks made, with American, or Christian. There is no difference between the sewage that spills out of their mouths or yours.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Infidel 101
Sorry Pheonix if my strong stance upsets your sensibilities but I see the wrong and i'm prepared to say it.

Turning your eyes away from a real problem does what? I have to share my land with a guy called Anjem Choudary. Google him.

I'll be damned if he and his ilk get there way.



Yes but he is an extremist, who is involved with politics etc not a normal muslim. There is a difference.

I'm sure most muslims haven't even heard of him!

[edit on 20-5-2008 by _Phoenix_]



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:15 PM
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Your assumption is that by being nice the Islamic Caliphate will go away. You are doing nothing more than appeasing in my opinion and giving new life and hope to those who wish us harm. I think you are confusing individual and national politics though. I have said that individually nobody is to blame. But a group can’t be held to judgement in singles.

Are you really telling me that Islam is no threat? Is Islam less of a threat to me than the Catholics?

You are insinuating that I spew sewage because I am highlighting a threat. You are the racist or foul in this case, I never attacked you in that way.

Typical.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:17 PM
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Don't you realise they WANT you to hate muslims. lol

You are pleasing them!



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:19 PM
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You can speak for British Muslims can you? His friend Trevor Brookes did shout down John Reid.

You sure you are talking the facts, or opinions held by you?



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:24 PM
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Argument lost through Infantism there Pheonix. Must try harder.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by Infidel 101
Argument lost through Infantism there Pheonix. Must try harder.



I'm sorry I really don't understand half of the things you say?



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by Infidel 101
Your assumption is that by being nice the Islamic Caliphate will go away. You are doing nothing more than appeasing in my opinion and giving new life and hope to those who wish us harm. I think you are confusing individual and national politics though. I have said that individually nobody is to blame. But a group can’t be held to judgement in singles.

Are you really telling me that Islam is no threat? Is Islam less of a threat to me than the Catholics?

You are insinuating that I spew sewage because I am highlighting a threat. You are the racist or foul in this case, I never attacked you in that way.

Typical.



I am guessing that was directed at me... I should have pointed out that yours was the last post when I started typing and just hit the reply to button. Sorry for any confusion.

Is Islam a real threat? No, i do not believe that it is. It is no more of a threat than any other religion. What the people do with it however is a different story. Everyone has their own interpretation of their religion. Most baptist people are fairly calm and reasonable, then you have the nutter group that protests at soldier funerals and thinks God is getting revenge on everyone because he hates gays. Would you say as a Christian that these people are representative of your religion?

You say I am appeasing those who WISH to do you harm. Guess what? Americans are over there CAUSING harm. I am not appeasing anything. I can't stand extremists of any faith or creed. That includes nationalists and imperialists. America's Army is in THEIR country, how can it some as a shock that there might be people there who are upset about this? Explain to me how some guy in Iraq, Iran, Afganistan, Turkey, Lebanon, Egypt, Morocco, Spain, or even Canada is a threat to you just because he reads a different holy book than you. I would like some real evidence without the scare tactics.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:41 PM
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I don’t believe any type of Holy Book. My end will be long, eternal and very thoughtlessly black.

That said how can you say Islam is no threat? Obviously it isn’t a threat if you want a Caliphate. Those who don’t want that are entitled to say no. Are you saying that Caliphatism doesn’t exist?

Did Islamists detonate in London?

Islam was causing harm before your country existed. America did not start this struggle, but I can see why Americans could think that Islam appeared on the scene on the 11th of September.

I’m sorry if I won’t fit into the liberal view and toe the line though. To look around and call me an extremist is utterly #e though. Do you wear blinkers?



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:42 PM
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Extremist is a word put in place for the PC folks out there that are too sensitive. The root base of Islam is much different then Muslim. As a matter of fact in the Koran it says if your Muslim brother dosent believe in Islam you must kill him or convert him. Big diff here. Also 99% is Muslims are Islamic.

I keep hearing people say "You never read the Koran. So you dont know." Clearly neither have they because what it states in there. Is the world should be an Islamic world and those that disagree, will die.. That you, me, and whom ever else dosent believe in strapping bomb belts to little kids and sending them off to kill others with it in the name of Jihad.

Right now france is having their laws rewritten to better mend to the Islamic rule that is taking over, it seems Britton is next. And with the "Extremist" label being applied to things here in the US. And marching our men and women in front of cameras to say sorry for things while the Islam followers behead some guy or blow up little kids, and they dont come out and say sorry. And, I have never seen any Islam leader ever come out and say sorry for the actions being done in the name of Islam.. Says something dosent it?



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:46 PM
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Watch out Jimmy your sounding a bit extremist.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 06:17 PM
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And your true colors shine brightly for all to see.


Ohh I see the racist card, I best shut my mouth while this religion lays waste to all around it, My hate doesn't make me less of a person for the people I need to care about and protect so I hope your superiority keeps you and your loved ones safe you twat, for within your lifetime the jihad they call for so ferociously will probably occur and for whatever disaster awaits this #hole I'm prepared and able to protect the people and dog I need to.



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