Major Explosion at Chaiten Volcano (Update), page 1
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Topic started on 18-5-2008 @ 01:41 AM by Indy
Mod edit: Changed title from "Chaiten Volcano Magma Chamber Identified?" on author's request. Update here




One of the biggest questions today for anyone following volcanoes is how big the Chaiten eruption will be. Nobody knows much about the volcano. What we do know is that it had been 9,000 years since the last eruption and that it hasn't stopped erupting since it started on May 2nd. There are also signs that something worse is coming. As I posted in another thread here is what John Seach had to say about the volcano.


Continuous eruptions are occurring at Chaitén volcano in Chile. The airfield at Chaitén town has been covered by ash and water, and is currently not able to be used. Ash and pumice is floating northwards along the Chile coast. The bay near Chaitén contains run-off from rivers with a milky-green colour. A large amount of sediment has blocked river channels, and lahars will continue to overflow river edges. Over the past two days there has been a marked change in seismic activity at the volcano. Earthquake swarms indicate fracturing of the main conduit, and possible ascent of magma towards the surface. Increasing pressure from magma is creating a potential explosion hazard, and collapse of the dome, generating


Source: www.volcanolive.com...

The eruption has been big. There is no doubt. I have seen reports online that the first part of the eruption may have ejected as much as 2 km^3 of material which is nearly twice as big as Mount St. Helens. A second and more explosive phase started about a week later and was bigger than the first phase. So just guessing it may have ejected 5+ km^3 of material already.

Then I find this quote....


Here is the most disturbing information I’ve yet seen on the eruption of Chaitén Volcano. It comes from a volcano guide’s blog, Volcano Live. He does not give his source, but I think he qualifies as an expert on the subject.


Following that the page includes a quote from Seach's website which lists five large quakes that preceded the eruption.


4.4 April 30, 2008 at 11:52 PM 17km E
5.3 May 02, 2008 at 01:51 AM 30km NE
4.9 May 02, 2008 at 07:13 AM 13km NW
4.1 May 02, 2008 at 06:13 PM 16km SW
5.0 May 02, 2008 at 10:36 PM 30 km NE


Source: www.seablogger.com...

The source above theorizes that the points may mark the outline of the magma chamber. Is that accurate? I don't know. But lets assume for a minute that it is. I plotted the points to get a visual of what the surface area of the chamber would look like. It would be oblong. From the widest points it would stretch about 45k and the narrow points about 30km. Give or take a couple km. I calculated the estimate surface area to be about 460 km^2.

How to figure out the volume of something like that? It won't have the same height from top to bottom all the way around. I imagine it to be like a hot water bottle filled up. That doesn't really help me much. I wasn't very good in geometry back in the day. So I borrowed a little help from the USGS website. I noticed that the Yellowstone caldera had roughly the same shape. It was 60km at its longest point and 40km wide. It is estimated that the chamber is 10km from top to bottom. Figuring the volume of a cube you'd take 60 x 40 x 10 to get 24,000 km^3. Obviously it isn't a cube. The USGS estimates the chamber to be 15,000 km^3. In this case 62.5% of the cube volume. With the appearance being theoretically similar I applied that to the Chaiten system. I estimated 45 x 30 x 5. I assumed the smaller chamber wouldn't be as deep so I cut the height in half. That would give a cube volume of 6750. Taking 62.5% of that would give us a volume of 4,219.

Assuming those large quakes actually mark the outline of the Chaiten magma chamber and assuming it is shaped like the Yellowstone magma chamber and only has a depth of 5km then the chamber could in theory hold over 4,000 cubic km of magma.

There is no way to know for sure until this is over. But the eruption has been going on for 2 weeks. It is still going strong. The only end in sight might be a catastrophic explosion and a collapse of the volcano itself which will do god only knows what. We do know that the volcanic system already has a caldera that is 3km wide. Who knows how much magma has built up in 9,000 years. But based on what Seach has posted things don't look good. It has gotten interesting enough that the USGS has just sent a team down to study and observe the event.

Sorry for the long winded post.

[edit on 2008/8/1 by Hellmutt]


reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 04:20 PM by UnitedSatesofFreemasons
reply to post by Indy



Wow great post. I was just on here before class looking up information on Chaiten. Oddly there isn't alot of coverage on it. Now this b*tch is big and pissed! I heard in your post your compareing it to Yellow stone. I am not an expert but if it were anywhere NEAR yellow stone i think we would have at least a CNN coverage...but then again considering all of the recent activity i think there hands are full. Starting today they think the big eruption is going to take place any day now. Im keeping my eye on this one. (0)_(-)


reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 03:35 AM by apex
reply to post by skribal



The only thing is that evacuated zones do little to protect people when large scale eruptions come into the scenario. For example with Krakatoa, the actual pyroclastic flows went across the water to nearby islands. Also never underestimate how far those things can go, or where, would seem a lesson Volcanologists have learned, the hard way in some cases. they can infact go uphill with enough energy behind them, which is a major issue with getting away from them, especially when considering they travel at high speed.

As well as that the ash cloud is a hazard as well, and lahars afterwards. Though as it's near the sea the lahar risk might be a bit less than in other cases.


reply posted on 27-5-2008 @ 08:41 PM by UnitedSatesofFreemasons

ERNAGEOMIN issued a new bulletin on the situation at Chaitén late yesterday, 26 May 2008. It reports that ‘The eruptive activity of the Chaitén volcano has declined to subplinian type, but remains continuous’, and that over the weekend, and ‘in particular on Sunday 25 May’, the eruption column reached an average altitude of less than 3.5km above sea level, with occasional large explosions lifting it to around 5km above sea level. South-westerly winds pushed the plume in a north-easterly direction.

An overflight took place on 24 May, during which ‘it was possible to overfly the volcano’s crater and examine the slight growth of the active volcanic dome, which just rises above the summmit of the old dome’. South of the active dome is a 200-metre crater ‘from which there is a continual expulsion of gas and ash’. The new dome ‘generates, especially to the north, flows and blocks of ash, because of the instability of its steep walls’.

A second overflight carried out by a Navy helicopter on 25 May revealed that many of the rivers in the Chaitén region are carrying significant quantities of ash: ‘It was observed that the Amarillo river was carrying a large burden of ash and abundant pumice of various sizes into the Yelcho river, the waters of which already contained ashes and had also received volcanic material, mainly ash, from the Minchinmahuida river’. The Correntoso river running from the north-east, was observed to be carrying ash into Lake Yelcho, and the Futaleufú and Azul rivers running into the southern end of the lake were also carrying smaller loads of ash, but but the other rivers debouching into the lake were clear. Flooding and the deposition of volcanic sediment continue to affect the town of Chaitén.

Seismic activity is currently declining: ‘Over the past four days VT-type [volcano-tectonic] earthquakes have decreased gradually in number and magnitude, indicating a slight but steady decay of seismic activity’. The explosions ‘associated with emissions of gases, ash and other pyroclasts’ are continuing, but are of ‘lesser intensity and volume’.


volcanism.wordpress.com...



reply posted on 28-5-2008 @ 02:34 AM by apex
reply to post by Indy



Or the eruption stopping and then Exploding spectacularly in a massive pyroclastic ball of hell at a later date.


reply posted on 19-6-2008 @ 09:26 PM by jpm1602
Sorry for the delay indy...been yacking my ak's freind ear off on messenger. I have link. But gosh darn it only a preview and airing schedule! They almost ALWAYS have video casts. www.pbs.org...
First column....'mysteries of the megavolcano'.
Click on story, enter zip will give you schedule of airings. Coming on twice more here in cleveland in next few days. Sure it will where you are if in states. Usually after it runs, then they put to archives for viewing...like the string theory special.

[edit on 6/19/2008 by jpm1602]

[edit on 6/19/2008 by jpm1602]


reply posted on 29-7-2008 @ 11:48 PM by Indy
It has been a while since this thread has been updated and it really needs it. Here we are approaching August 1st and this eruption is almost 3 months old. It has gone nonstop since it first erupted in the early days of May. Now there were hints that the eruption was about over a couple of weeks ago and something changed. Seismic activity picked up dramatically.


Moreover, intense and continuous noise has been perceptible since 24 July, when an emission of ash accumulated to the depth of 3cm around Chaitén. On 27 July weather conditions again favoured the fall of fine ash on the town, albeit in a very restricted manner. The preceding describes, regardless, eruptive activity that is weak but sustained.

The foregoing notwithstanding, the latest seismic data clearly shows an elevated seismicity, which has been sustained for several weeks, both in the number of earthquakes and their magnitude (a large number of them being felt by people over several days) and recorded by stations at a distance, with an increase in the number of earthquakes with a magnitude greater than 3.5M. Likewise, it was possible to verify that the greater part of the earthquakes of greater energy were located to the south-east and south-south-east of the Chaitén volcano.


Source:
volcanism.wordpress.com...

Credit also goes to Fresh Bilge for constant updates since the eruption has started.

At the beginning of this thread I calculated the theoretical volume of this chamber. This eruption hasn't come close to emptying out what the chamber could hold. But it also isn't ever yet. Why are they hearing this rumbling? Is there magma on the move? Is the system getting ready to explode because of a huge buildup of pressure? Or is the rumbling the beginning of the collapse of the system into a new caldera?

Has anyone else come across news on this eruption? I'd love to hear from members in Chile.


reply posted on 1-8-2008 @ 04:54 AM by Hellmutt
Oy! It might explode at any time...


Chaitén Update 42

31 Jul 08


The webcam shows continuous emission with the plume a little higher than it has been, perhaps 10,000 feet.

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The seismic pattern is most unusual. It certainly could portend a major eruption, which could come at any time.



reply posted on 1-8-2008 @ 05:34 AM by Hellmutt
Oh, great! A supervolcano is just what the world needs right now. Compare the potential of Chaitén with Tambora's 1815 eruption, which caused "the year without summer".


Wikipedia: Mount Tambora

It had roughly four times the energy of the 1883 Krakatoa eruption.

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This has left a caldera measuring 6–7 km (4–5 mi) across and 600–700 m (2,000–2,300 ft) deep.

[---]

Before the explosion, Mount Tambora was approximately 4,300 m (14,000 ft) high

...and this:
In summer 1816, countries in the Northern Hemisphere suffered extreme weather conditions, dubbed the Year Without a Summer. Average global temperatures decreased about 0.4–0.7 °C (0.7–1.3 °F),[2] enough to cause significant agricultural problems around the globe.

Maybe Mother Earth is about to fight back against manmade global warming?
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