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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 12:52 AM by RusytyShackleford
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Originally posted by dhardeman
*SIGH*
I believe the only way it can truly be detected is with radar or something that can track a moving object- I doubt it could be located via optical
telescope unless one was extremely lucky to aim in the right direction- if it exists at all.
It could very easily be located by optical telescope, especially with digital astrophotography and software. Many astronomers are interested in
searching for new asteroids. To do this, they will take a picture of the night sky one night and then at the same time the next night take another
picture. The pictures are then "stacked" to see if any "stars" are moving. If something is found, there are a number of catalogs and organizations
that can be used to verify anything new in the sky. This is, in fact, the way Pluto was discovered.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 12:56 AM by dhardeman
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 03:01 AM by cruzion
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Originally posted by Evasius
Here is the latest image from SOHO (The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory):
There's something there. And it's present in all the images over the last 2 days at least.
If it's a lens anomaly, it is very prolific.
Source page: sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov...
That is the C3 filter.
Right next to it on this page :
soho.esac.esa.int...
is also the C2 filter shot, which has no anomaly.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 04:31 AM by Pjotr
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Originally posted by sensfan
Nice lens flare there. If that's planet X, I guess it brought along planets Y, Z XX and YY as well right? There are lens flares all over those
pictures.
And how would you be able to see a planet during the day time? And aparently only from Chicago, at that time of day, with his camera? If it's that
big, I should be able to see it right this minute, as would everyone else.
Oh, almost forgot, I guess you need to take video through the window too, that adds to the lens flare and reflections.
Use some common sense people.
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I remember that this was the first thing that caught my eye seeing the curveline of flares, I suspended that just for researching it, but by now we
know. lensflare with the cute coincidence of Mercury being in that place.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 06:28 AM by Dimitris
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I didn't read all the replies so I don't know if anyone else noticed that before me. In the video 1:21 the camera zooms in to the object. Just under
the object there is a chimney or something. As the cameraman moves around, the light object also moves from the chimney left or right while the sun
remains still. In my opinion in order to move left or right it REALLY has to be close to the camera.
How about that?
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 06:41 AM by Lokey13
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reply to post by Agent Venom
Not sure if you were agreeing with my post but your post was very informative, like you said these type of people who are believing in this BS must
love lack of information. I stated I didn't think this was Nibiru at all and if it was anything it couldn't be a solar body. But like you stated it
is probably just a reflection. Also in the context of people calling Nibiru a Brown Dwarf wouldn't that mean that the inner solar system would
periodically be thrown out of wack because of the immense gravitational pull from a body of that size(talking mass). Also if this planet came anywhere
near the sun if it were a Brown Dwarf it would probably be caught by the Sun's immense gravitational pull and we probably would have been blinded by
an explosion already. Well either way I suppose we'll know more when someone credible talks about this.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 07:01 AM by Agent Venom
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Exaclty, a brown dwarf star being just four years away would already be having a major effect on the stability of the solar system. You also have to
take into account that this object is said to have a 3600 year orbit, think how many times this so-called brown dwarf has ploughed through the solar
system, we wouldn't even be here discussing it right now if this was the case. The solar system is stable, as it has been for billions of years. Not
to mention it would be reflecting so much light it would be one of the brightest object in the sky.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 07:46 AM by Geemor
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i agree with you and lokey. to me it appears like that this matter is paraller to the religious fanatism-- they both want to believe in something, and
really do believe, but their 'proof' is often very one-sided, and they ignore the facts what more realistic people generally agree on. they only
accept the 'facts' supportive to their hypothesis. i don't know if it is very wise.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 07:52 AM by Soylent Green Is People
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The object changes position relative to the sun between 1:22 and 1:23 (just as the camera moves). I'd say it's a reflection.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 07:56 AM by Melyanna Tengwesta
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Originally posted by Geemor
reply to post by Melyanna Tengwesta
now you got me puzzled as i started asking questions when i few minutes ago had a clear opinion
 You are puzzeled? I'm puzzeled daily when I dive into tgis stuff!!
Anyway it keeps the brain busy and I'm curious about other ppl's theories.
Maybe I'm just totally mental but sometimes I get 'messages' from through the veil  There is a planet out there that belongs to our solar
system but where it is or when it will be visible for humans, I have NO idea.
The outburts of our Sun that spread particles (solar cosmic rays/radiation)
that are capable of mutating biological lifeforms (like on human skin: cancer) and plant. Also it has an influence on the Earth's climate.
WHAT now the Sun has many outbursts over the last few years and planet IN our solar system line up in various combination since the late 80S?
Ii think it all has an influence on Life on Earth.
WHAT would be the effect of an other planet that has an orbit of some thousand years? WHAT IF it enters our solarsystme and lines up with the Sun and
our other planets?? Is humanity ready for it? That's what i wonder about ....
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 08:03 AM by Geemor
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reply to post by Melyanna Tengwesta
even we couldn't see it due it strange radiation frequency, we still would be able to determine it approximate location due the force that it would
cause in the form of 'gravitation' in other objects in our solar system. if its a small planet however, it would be harder of course. but generally
nibiru is considered to be a star with orbiting planet, or huge planet capable of throwing earth off it's orbit-- that kind of thing we should know
about even if we couldn't see it.. or at least i suppose so
to answer you last question, i think that most of us would have hard time accepting it, but generally your guestion is in vain, because if such event
would take place, mankind would have to adapt in it.
btw, i don't want to sound like skeptic, and i like to believe that there are people with mental capabilities even my own are non-existent
also i agree that the off-orbit planets are possibility, but not such thing as the common nibiru myth claims. i be meaning the one that is supposed to
be a brown dwarf star only 4 years from us now. if it would be real, we would be feeling it already in far more devastating effects that could ever be
explained with current earthquakes and tornados..
but then again, what do i know?
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 08:16 AM by rxnnxs
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if you compare the C2 (red) with the C3 (blue), you will notice it has a different focus.
the planet which is seen in the above shown blue C3 picture might as well be the planet that is seen in the C2 movie, posted here below at 4:20 and
the one 6:39
the white circle represents the sun. so there is today a planet visible in the C3, but not in the C2. you will see it later, when the planet is coming
closer to the sun (from our point of view)
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 08:24 AM by Nola213
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I'm sorry but I just can't believe that Niribu passed by our inner solar system 3600 years ago;that'd be around 1600 AD (unless my math is off),
and wiped out mostly all life here on earth? Because that's what would happen if this supposed object travelled through our inner solar system.
So life recreated itself, heck lets even say that just man was wiped out, it takes hundreds of thousands if not millions of years to go from Ape to
man. If it does pass by every 3600 years, and we have human fossil records dateing back way, way, wat earlier than that, you Nibiru believers are
saying Earth and man on earth has survived hundreds, upon hundreds of Nibiru passings through our local planet group then?
If so I think the odds we'll survive just one more is pretty damn good.
Nothing to fear either way.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 08:41 AM by tyranny22
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Wow!
That's one fast moving Nibiru!
It must be due to the gravitational forces of the sun and maybe a black hole in the center of our solar system.
... um, or it could just be lens flare. LMAO.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 08:43 AM by tyranny22
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I think you meant B.C.
or, your math really IS bad.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 12:14 PM by cruzion
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This poor dead horse is being flogged again?
Look, Nibiru is fantasy. There's no such thing. It was invented to tenuously fit an interpretation of some old documents. It's not a science.
To go over old ground yet again:
Nibiru is claimed to have a 3630 year ORBITAL cycle. The significance of this is that in having an elliptical orbit, it must have a gravitational
center of mass that it goes around. Even if Nibiru was invisible, we would be able to easilly detect the central gravitational force. At the very
least, because Nibiru passes through our solar system, and is effected by this CONSTANT gravitational mass, we would both be able to witness the
gravitational effects on our Sun, and the the entire Solar system of planets, and indeed, any object with mass in our solar system...which we
can't.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 01:29 PM by RusytyShackleford
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Originally posted by cruzion
Originally posted by Evasius
Here is the latest image from SOHO (The Solar and Heliospheric Observatory):
There's something there. And it's present in all the images over the last 2 days at least.
If it's a lens anomaly, it is very prolific.
Source page: sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov...
That is the C3 filter.
Right next to it on this page :
soho.esac.esa.int...
is also the C2 filter shot, which has no anomaly.
The reason that it is in the LASCO C3 is that it's field of view goes out to 30 solar radii. THE LASCO C2 only goes out to about 6 solar radii. Also
note the open star cluster the Pliades are also not visibile in the C2. Watch in the coming days and both Venus and the Pliades will be visible.
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