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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 01:23 PM by Melyanna Tengwesta
Originally posted by Geemor
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anytime

i think this nibiru thing is based on a false presumption. while it may have been real planet, regarding that so many sources speak of it (not forgetting the ancient teachings), it now lies shattered on the kepler's belt in our sol system. somehow my insight tells me that this is the case; nibiru came here once or twice, but then collided with another planet (tiamat?) in our solar system and formed that great belt of shattered rock that now lies in orbit between mars and jupiter.


What do you think about this article? It's been a headline in the science sections of divers newspapers over the world since last Feb.

www.spacedaily.com...


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 01:29 PM by Agent Venom
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Many people take that article completely out of context, and some sources even changed the title to "DISCOVERED new planet" when in fact they haven't found anything yet. There could be many TNO's (trans-Neptunian objects) orbiting in this region of space.

A trans-Neptunian object (TNO) is any object in the solar system that orbits the sun at a greater distance on average than Neptune. The Kuiper belt, scattered disk, and Oort cloud are three divisions of this volume of space. The orbit of each of the planets is affected by the gravitational influences of all the other planets. Discrepancies in the early 1900s between the observed and expected orbits of the known planets suggested that there were one or more additional planets beyond Neptune. The search for these led to the discovery of Pluto in 1930. Pluto is too small to explain the discrepancies, however, and revised estimates of Neptune's mass showed that the problem was spurious.

It took more than 60 years to discover another TNO (with only the discovery of Pluto's moon Charon in between). Since 1992 however, 1075 objects have been discovered, differing in sizes, orbits and surface composition. But only 132 of these have a well determined orbit allowing easy observatory recovery.


Even if they do find another TNO object that is pretty big compared to others, I highly doubt it will be this mysterious Nibiru people are raving about. What also makes me laugh is the fact these PXers/Nibiru proponents say this planet is pulling on the orbit of Neptune and is "coming up from underneath" so to speak. Even if that was the case, why would it only be pulling on the orbit of Neptune and not any other planet? (The so-called discrepancies in the orbit of Neptune have been explained anyway, a long time ago). They contradict themselves so many times it really is quite laughable. Hell, half of them can't even agree on whether or not it's a planet or a star or even exactly where it is, yet they can guarantee it will arrive sometime in 2012? Uh huh, sure, just like they guaranteed it would arrive in 2003!



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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 01:36 PM by Geemor
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i've seen and read the article you speak of, while it is highly interesting, i doubt that they will find anything, at least not nibiru or tiamat. anyway, there could be even more planets, who knoes.

how would you (or anyone) explain that asteroid belt? in my mind, it is either a planet in formation - which could take hundred millions of years, or then it is remains of planet x? at the quick glance it seems very dubious to me that a bunch of asteroids would have just flown there and decided to stay in there.. but also, taking in note the gravity of sun, jupiter and saturn, it could be a kind of gravitation trap, which catches all the roids wandering around in space.

now you got me puzzled as i started asking questions when i few minutes ago had a clear opinion


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 04:36 PM by mcmartinson



reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 05:03 PM by Agent Venom
Originally posted by Lokey13
Also Niburu was stated in an article I read to be just a little bit bigger then Pluto, so if thats the case this planet would have to be within a couple 100,000 miles of Earth to look so large. This isn't a planet, this isn't a meteor, this isn't a comet, this isn't the moon or any moon. So with all this information out there we should start looking for alternative theories of what this could be.


It is garbage is what it is. The SOHO image is a planet, one we know of, the OP video is nothing but a reflection through a double glazed window. Your post is also a prime example of how people who support this Nibiru stuff also contradict other so-called "information" and "facts" about it put out by others. The widely accepted argument seems to be that this Nibiru is a brown dwarf star, which would have to have a mass bigger than Jupiter is order to qualify it as being a brown dwarf. We have people saying it's a planet slightly smaller than Jupiter, a planet no bigger than Pluto, or it's a comet. We have people saying it's only visible from the South Pole, which as I pointed out in a previous post is complete and utter nonsense as anything visible in the South Pole, especially a brown dwarf star being only for years away (2012 being the accepted date for its so-called "fly by of Earth") would also be visible to the entire Southern Hemisphere. The South Pole does not have its 'own little hemisphere' and there are no blind spots on Earth, the Earth is spherical, not shaped like a cube! The South Pole idea is also another contradiction as we have people saying Nibiru is the area of the Orion Constellation, which is in the Northern Hemsphere and in fact can be viewed globally during certain periods. We have people living in the Northern Hemisphere who claim to see it and so-called video footage such as the one in the OP as well as other locations on Earth, yet others who live in the Southern/Northern Hemisphere see nothing. Is there multiple Nibiru's or something? Or just one that zips around to various locations and says: "hello, here I am!" We also have people saying Nibiru is "coming up from underneath" yet "hiding behind the Sun" and "it won't be visible until it is right on top of us". How exactly does that work? How can an object on a highly elliptical orbit come up from "underneath" and remain "hidden behind the Sun" when at the same time the Earth rotates and orbits the Sun? So many questions the Nibiru proponents cannot answer or refuse to do so. In any case, the simple fact remains that in the sense these Nibiru proponents peddle their unscientifc nonsense out there, in order to believe it you have throw known laws of physics, gravitation, orbital dynamics and planetary motion out of the window. They cannot answer such questions yet can blatently state it is coming some time around 2012? What happend to the last time it was meant to arrive in 2003? I will state it right here right now, the way these Planet X/Nibiru/doomsday proponents speak of it it simply does not and cannot exist. I will also state that I have been studying and researching this matter since the 2003 date and thus far found no evidence whatsoever to support the existence of such a planet/star/comet/heavenly body or whatever you wish to call it. Anyone who also comes up with things like "the Sumerians knew about this" or "Zecheria Sitchin has the answers", I will refute those claims too, maybe not here as it is drifting off topic, but in another relevant thread.


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 06:22 PM by OzWeatherman
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Well done!

I wish I could give this post applause!

Sheer and utter brilliance!
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