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Bad Psychics- Sylvia Browne

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posted on May, 19 2008 @ 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by Vanitas


I really wish Randi hadn't been brought into this conversation...
He is every bit as "fake" as Sylvia, in the sense that he has ZERO intellectual honesty - the one thing that any serious thinker, let alone researcher, cannot do without.




Please tell me how Randi is as fake as a psychic? He tries to find the real evidence, he denounces psychics without evidence, he offers a big prize for anyone who can demonstrate psychic abliity under controlled conditions.

So yes please tell me how Randi has in your words "ZERO intellectual honesty". One of the best pieces of work he has done in my view are the articles about the Nostradamus books by John Hoag. This man changes the same phrases to mean different people. First it was Saddam whos' the big bad person, then it changes to osama bin laden, then someone else. Each new edition of his books bring something new from the same phrase when his predictions are proven false.

That's the work Randi does, it's honest as far as i can see, accurate and verifiable.




posted on May, 19 2008 @ 08:14 PM
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to all on this posting there are those who are truly gifted and those who are not some of us are born with it ,some of us need to be taught to use these gifts and then there are those who are FAKE.i was born with them and yet i refused to use them for many years as everything concerning the gifts seemed to go against my biblical teachings.there is another posting on ats under paranormal on this subject -one posting in particular is of the utmost importance it is the rules and laws that the gifted ones adhere to with the utmost reverence and that is that you do not charge for what you can do,if someone asks for help you do so with out question if a monetary gift is offered to you -you may accept it but you can not use it for yourself it must be given to those who are in need or a legitimate charity.as to testing us how would you do it as the gifts don't work on demand-example the cards that the psychic cant see with shapes or forms on them the powers which be denote whether or not you can partake in the test if not then your test is in valid.the first time i met one of my teachers some of my friends and i went out to the black church on a lark,BIGGEST mistake as one of the women that came with us was gifted ,we walked into the old building with ease then i caught movement out of the corner of my eye something big and black flew out of the trees and came towards us and it went into the ground ,i picked up an old tire and went to throw it down to scare the others and got caught at it by them.we turned to leave and made it as far as the ditch near the road when the gifted one screamed and could not move,everyone laughed ,i had to hit her as hard as i could to be able to move her i could not push or pull her for the life of me she weighed 105 lbs.i`m 160 lbs. we got her into the truck and she was as white as a ghost we got her home instantly she had me phone her friend up north 3 1/2 hour drive ,i told her that her friend had 6 claw marks on each ankle she said get her here now and don't stop.her friend was one of my teachers .we left instantly-no one told the one up north anything before we left except where we went and about the marks on mirs legs and they were about 1/4 inch deep.we got up there asap and we were sitting at the kitchen table about 2am. this woman started to talk to us and draw out every detail of the area that we were in that night she told us about the fence the ditch and the church and everything we did and said it was like she was there with us but she wasnt . it was and old way station at one time she drew it in such detail that it scared the crap out of me all i kept thinking was your nuts but the more she drew and spoke the more it freaked me out .mir and i kept running out to have a smoke because this was so uncanny this woman kept saying this is what i see and pointed to her forehead i had heard of psychics but never really believed in them .she kept looking at me and saying that you to can do this ,i didn`t know what she meant as i didn`t really understand back then20years ago i do now.the last thing she said to me was "WHAT CAME OUT OF THE TREE" no one else knew what i saw not even mir was told i was out side for a smoke so fast that if you blinked you would have missed me.it took me several years before i drew what i saw come out of the tree for her -all she said was it is dark and you know its name-dark as in what she said in time you will face it .i only wish that at time s she didn't speak in unspoken riddles.the one from up north did not come into our home area for another 4 years later and she had never been here before .and yes i can now see through time and space as she said you can do it to.



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 04:43 AM
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Well thats quite a story!

Maybe you should start your own thread on it



posted on May, 20 2008 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by OzWeatherman

Originally posted by drock905
I dont believe anything these "psychics" see. But i have to mention that my father had a reading with Sylvia years ago. He doesnt believe in this stuff at all, he did it as a goof. She was a friend of a friend of a friend. No money at all was involved.

He recorded the meeting and he said she was pretty correct with everything she said, he said it was errie, but again he doesnt believe this stuff.


Yeah but there are several techniques that she can use, like shotgunning that you or I could learn how to do and get the same results


Yeah of course, thats was exactly my point, shes just talented when it comes to these palor tricks. Its the same thing with that john edwards guy. Like i said i dont buy into it at all and my father came to the same conclusion. He did it for kicks, If you had the chance to get a "reading" from a famous psychic, even though you dont believe in it would you do it? I know i would

He said it was an overall strange experience and She was pretty odd



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 06:28 AM
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Wow!!!! Glad to see there are others who see Sylvia as I do. Its pathetic though how she still has so many who believe in her. On the message board on vapraags website she has people who steadfastly stand by her. Its mind boggling especially for anyone who has seen her on the montel show.What a scam artist. Thanks for letting me post this.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 09:40 AM
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Just because Randi claims to be intellectually honest it doesn't follow that he really is.
(After all, Sylvia also claims to be clairvoyant; it doesn't mean she is.
But just because she is on the wrong side of Randi's ideological fence it doesn't mean that her subjective claims should be taken any less seriously than Randi's assertions about himself and his methods.)

There is (sadly) enough material on the web to prove that his motives may be less than crystal-clear. (Whether he himself is aware of that is besides the point.) In the age of Google I find it very patronising to bring up links - especially knowing that links can be, and often are, interpreted through a predetermined filter.

But if need be, I shall.
(When I find the time to do so.
)






[edit on 17-6-2008 by Vanitas]



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 11:14 AM
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WOW thats how its done.
The BIG LIE.

If the truth is known, just reverse it.
If a Big Lie is common knowledge, reversing it is a lie.

If I sound like I'm telling a lie, you have been lied to already.
You are under the BIG LIE.

Reading her column must keep some people occupied.



posted on Jun, 17 2008 @ 05:31 PM
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I........I love you all.........every time i think im the only person who feels this way about somthing i run into a massive group of people who are thinking,, just like me.... yes,, i agree silvia brown is a thorn in my side whenever i see her on the news.. she speaks so dogmatically about things and she is so clearly wrong yet its as if no one even cares...WELL I CARE!!!
I cant stand her and to make matters worse she belittles people in person talks down to them as if she somehow has all the answers or all the light.

her supporters from what i can see in the video including montel seem to have somthing going on that im unaware of, probably money.
OMG did you see her facial reaction when she got it wrong with that lady in the audiance about her husband in 911? i havent ever seen a room get that quiet, and montel is their to butter her up after she dropped the ball.

ATTENTION ALL BODY LANGUAGE SPECIALISTS!!!
WE NEED YOU PLEASE READ HER LANGUAGE>> i have to know whats really going on in her head.



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 05:13 AM
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I have read three of her books. They were "Secret Societies...and How They Affect Our Lives Today" , "Life on the Other Side", and "Past Lives, Future Healing".

The biggest problem I have with her is the fact that she charges people an inordinate amount of money for tickets to her shows and personal readings. While I can attest to the fact that she has a lot of people who need help psychologically and spiritually and doesn't have the time to help everyone. She should do it free of charge as described by an earlier poster.

She is coming to my city in a month. The cost of tickets to the event range from $100-$150 per seat. People don't get full readings either they are chosen at random by her.

I respect her for helping others with their emotional baggage but this should really be done by trained psychologists.

The only book I really enjoyed of hers was Life on the Other side as it mainly described aspects of her personal life.

All in all what has always bothered me is if she means well why does she rape people for all they are worth?



[edit on 6-18-2008 by CPYKOmega]



posted on Jun, 18 2008 @ 03:29 PM
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Silvia is an example of just how easily people are led about. They want to believe because they are empty in the head and want to be strung along since they have no idea of life. Silvia recognizes ignorance and cashes in on the weak, infirm, old, demented and lost.

It seems the more wild the claim, the more outlandish the story, the more utterly rediculous the show, people love it to death, and will part with there valuables with glee.




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