Originally posted by Kaifan
for instance, UFO evidence from ancient times, how the machines were built since they can't enter the material world, surely they would need help
from human beings to build them at first, but, there wasn't tech as advanced as we have today, and even if they had the knowledge, the human tech to
build them simply wasn't available, yet we have record of those sightings..
Also, if this is all true, and God has the power to forbid them to enter the material world, why is he allowing them to do this?
...This is the chicken/egg scenario I mention but didn't elaborate on. I suppose if I were to go out on a limb, I would propose that the 'demons',
for lack of a better word, are looking for a way of getting back at the man upstairs, and they realize that the only chance they have is to affect
something in the physical realm... I'll we can speculate on what that is, but let's say for the sake of this explanation that they do seem to be
able to 'move things around' like furniture, silverware. There is record of people experiencing "demonic possession", which gives us the
impression that they must have a reason for going into an existing human body. SO, perhaps these things consume a great deal more of their energy and
concentration, and it was in it's early stages that these entities created the first ships, laboratories and underground bases. The grays are thought
to have advanced technology and Psychic powers. Perhaps the onset of the whole shebang was a group of possessed alchemists who used "forbidden
knowledge" to create the first empty, kidnapped human fetuses, who were mutated into 4 ft tall bodies that were strong enough to do tasks, had a
developed enough nervous system to control a steady pair of hands, and had an enlarged, accelerated human brain, capable of all manner of telepathy
and similar abilities.
I'm getting all sci-fi here, but this kind of answers your question of why god could forbid them to materialize, but why let them do this? One point
in my theory is that, not to put any limitations on "god", but rather a greater separation between "the creator of all things" and who or whatever
"created" man. The concept that a higher power "changed the universe" in such a way so that his fallen minions could no longer use one of their
powers makes a lot less sense to me than the idea of their access to a certain kind of technology being taken away does. That's definitely one of the
things I was hoping to hear ideas about. If ET or extra-dimensional technology was involved, the scriptures would make more sense, and so would a lot
of the UFO phenomena. The incubus/succubus activity could have been the beginning, and the whole reason could be to create a workforce/army to
manufacture technology that helps them achieve something in this realm.
There are some others here on ATS that are more familiar with these ideas, and I hope they post. This is nothing new really, except the gray
thing... That's mine, and as much as I hope it's not true, I just can't shake the idea lol.
so the cast downs=?
and the grays are considered here to be=?
sightings,angels/succubus/incubus activity =?
Well, the cast downs would be extradimensional, Anunaki, beings... I don't think in terms of God/Devil/Angels/Demons... The bible was worded the way
it was to reach the people of the time... It had to be updated to make sense to people in the future, but since no one could agree on how to update
it, it was compromised. A word here a phrase there and soon the meaning is lost in translation. Then [INSERT MEMBER OF ANY CHURCH HERE] says, "But
god wouldn't let his word get diluted, just join my
church and all will be well." that would be fine, except for the very notion that
conflict does exist. COMPROMISED
. ...Anyway, those dudes, whoever they were, they went against the plan. They polluted the gene pool with their
instantly materialized human suits, which were to be used for messenger service alone, apparently.
Their offspring were soulless "giants" perhaps not literally but they were Nephilim and some were Pharaohs. The bible is not too clear on their
numbers, or just how widespread they were, it just says that it was enough for god to ponder his creation as a mistake, and decide to drown
This is where Sitchinites and the like get the concept of the bible being strictly a story about the DNA of man. That perhaps we are an experiment,
and the "Great Flood" was an attempt to reset the planet's ecosystem. That Noah's ark wasn't actually full of pairs of every animal on the
planet, but could've had enough room for it's DNA.
So, cast-downs = rogue scientists who mucked up the experiment in the first place... Fired from their jobs and no longer have access to the
Grays = human bodies kidnapped from the womb, grown into suitable vessels for the "cast-downs" to use to get around not having bodies, or access to
Sightings = the above going about their business.
Angels= I don't know, but what most people describe as angelic activity seems to fall outside of anything I mention here.
Incubus/succubus activity = if it still happens, and the above is true
then perhaps they just don't have any other recourse than to do it "the
old-fashioned way" lol ...Or maybe they're honing their skills, or just get some kind of ghoulish thrill... It's often said that they "feed" off
fear and emotions... When you look at any amount of paranormal activity and try to figure out "why"... Well, you usually come away without an
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