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Topic started on 17-5-2008 @ 11:26 AM by WatchRider


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NW Cell

Put your ideas and thoughts down here for a local Survival Cell / Group.
Camping, skills and specific concerns on SitX for the area.


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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 01:14 PM by shuck


I live in Yorkshire...would be interested to know what skils/knowledge you have learned!!

Thanks



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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 07:06 PM by fred3110


Hey watchrider, is your group NW exclusive or would you accept a north easterner??

There doesn't seem to be many survival minded people in my neck of the woods and I'm not to keen about having to do it rambo style!



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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 07:09 PM by davidifty


Manchester here.....count me in.



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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 07:12 PM by AGENT_T


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Heyy.. Bedlington here.. Where u at?



We're everywhere..wooooo!!!..

heading north past morpeth towards carter bar/kielder has crossed my mind.



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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 07:19 PM by fred3110


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hey AGENT_T Newcastle here! kielder is my option to if anything kicks off and we have short notice, plenty of food,water and what a view!



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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 07:29 PM by AGENT_T


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I was also looking at the north Yorkshire moors.. There's a nice cave system there.. It's kind of commercialised..but in a crisis we could soon boot them out

www.yorkshire.com...


Depends if SIT-X happens to be an ice age though... Man I'd love that.. Big open fires,caves and Raquel Welsh in a sabre-toothskin bikini. woot.!!



But Towards Kielder is the most likely from here..
It would only take about 15 mins from here to get to a country/farm track route away from the main panic...1hr total.. it'd be even closer if there was warning because I'd be hiding out at my mates farm in Bellingham...on the Kielder forest border.

How about this boys.. n girls..
www.plbltd.com...

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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 08:00 PM by fred3110


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Yeah that cave system does look like a pretty good idea for an ice age or even nuke type sit x, I didn't even know there were cave systems that extensive in uk (you learn something new every day!).

It would take me about 45mins to get to kielder in a car if I took all the usual roads, off the beaten track probs about 2 hours I'm guessing (even longer on my bike I dont own a car!).

owwww Raquel Welsh I'd be there sitX or not!



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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 08:38 AM by WatchRider


First of all, thanks for your responses, I wasn't sure whether anyone would even dance to the threads tune.

Shuck,

My survival skills aren't anything special.

Living in a tent off rations, knocking up a shelter from foliage and living in it.
Map reading, landmark referencing, using a compass, knots.
That's not much but I'll share what little I have expecting whatever the other person has to share or nothing, it's all good.

Hunting wildlife and gutting an animal are my weak points, along with flora and fauna foraging.
Mechanical wizardry is another weakish-point.

By all means the thread can be for Yorkshire, Lancashire, Southerners etc.
But the main reason I did it for NW England was so if we want to organise a camping trip etc it'll mean we won't have to drive far to meet up.
As you all well know fuel and transport costs are sky high.
Having said that if someone from elsewhere fancies meeting up in the NW or vice versa then why not.

I know what you mean about a lack of survival minded people, on the Fylde coast there's none that I know in my town either.
They tend to be too busy or distracted. I don't fancy the solo rambo thing either.

Some have suggested that meeting up people you've never met before via the internet is a nuts thing. I disagree with that.
I've made some great friends through working and from the internet and rarely had a problem because of it.

We all seem fairly level heading Brits on here.

Good suggestions on the places so far. Near to me there's the -
Peak districk - not bad, plenty of game and fresh water, shelter via the valley and forest. Centrally located for us all to meet.
Downside is it's near to a load of populated areas like manchester and valley towns. Which means every man and his dog will be there, place might get a bit crowded. As far as travelling goes. 2 hours tops in a car main roads/motorway 5 hours back roads, 2 days on a bicycle. 4 days on foot.

Lake District - Elevated position, loads of valleys and remote spots to hide up in. I even know where some treasure is rumoured to be buried! No cities nearby and only a few villages, people are friendly near there too.
Good place for a major exped to learn/trade/pass skills etc
I know a very nice manor house we'd likely be welcome in (run by monks)

Downside is it's maybe far off for you guys in Yorkshire and the North East?
It's also often a place of wet weather (think perpetual rain) when the winds coming in from the N. Atlantic and Low pressure is overhead. This can be a good thing for rain collection though.

Agent T.
I like the sound and look of your groove man.
Kielder, it's miles and miles away but looks to be an excellent choice for camping and shelter.
A biggie is there's nobody even living in the vicinity!
If all goes pete tong it's a good staging area for trudging north to meet up with our Scottish Brothers.
There's probably a castle or too in the area as I think it's in the Cheviot hills where they built loads of small ones.
The Moors are a good one too, aren't they a bit exposed and windswept though? Or is that me being a wuss?

Meets and RVs.

By the sounds of things we can all sort of make a rough idea of whereabouts would make the best RV/Hide zone and then narrow it down further.
For Obvious reasons the actual specifics on grid refs and locations should not be posted on this forum.
Dar Kumas excellent stronghold bridge may well of had the electricity ruined cause of exactly that.

Alternatively we could just say - right meeting on this date, all meet up in our cars, get the kit out and say 'This is the place man' we'll work a hide / cache etc out as we explore around whatever area.
I'm no leader, more of a suggestioner/Advisor kinda guy I guess. So let's hear your thoughts on meets and camps etc.
We've got the summer upon us and fair weather, excellent time for getting and about.
What do you all think?

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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 09:00 AM by h3akalee


Halifax lad here.

Live near open moorland and forested area's have learned to live from the land since a youngster too many hunting and fishing hour's to even count.

When i got older i spent a good few year's in the army.

Was trained in survival technique's.

Can map read upto 10 figure grid reference.

Am trained in camouflage and concealment.

Can locate, kill and prepare and preserve wild animal's from trout to deer.

Have various item's to collect the above such as Air rifle's, snare's, fishing equipment and i also own a crossbow for larger game such as deer however i think these have become illegal.
So for the time being until SIT-X happen's god forbid this is well locked away.

Am currently learning how to locate, collect and preserve wild mushroom's and berries.

Can construct shelter's erect anything made with wood (own my own fencing buissness) have all the tool's required.

Am very easy going and tend to be the whisperer that is louder than the shouter.

I am a familly man with three children.

I am 25 year's old and my name is Lee.

Take care.

Regards
Lee





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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 09:10 AM by WatchRider


Well said Lee.

Good to hear from you.

Those are invaluable skills you have there and would be an asset to any group or team.

As far as I know crossbows of all sizes are pretty much legal but carrying them around urban areas is a grey area (sort of). It is illegal to hunt with them though.

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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 09:23 AM by AGENT_T



Originally posted by WatchRider

My survival skills aren't anything special.

Living in a tent off rations, knocking up a shelter from foliage and living in it.
Map reading, landmark referencing, using a compass, knots.
That's not much but I'll share what little I have expecting whatever the other person has to share or nothing, it's all good.

Hunting wildlife and gutting an animal are my weak points, along with flora and fauna foraging.

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The Moors are a good one too, aren't they a bit exposed and windswept though? Or is that me being a wuss?

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Dar Kumas excellent stronghold bridge

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Hey watch.. The skill you have are EXPERIENCE in exactly the things you listed,which are crucial.. The whole point of a group is to find people with skills that compliment your own..
No-one is going to expect someone there that can fix everyone's problems unless your name is RAY MEARS.. Wooot!!

My trademark has always been blagging It doesn;t seem to matter what happens.. I'll find a way to get by and have fun doing it.
Quite good camp-craft and a whizz shot with a bow though..

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The moors was only a consideration because of the cave system in a SEVERE sit-x.. Lethal solar-flare/neighbouring supernova/Yankees invading/ice-age type..

Anything EXCEPT a 4mile high Tsunami If that was a case.. Newcastle airport and a set of keys for the nearest jumbo jet.

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Hats off to DAR-KUMA That has easily got to be the BEST idea I've seen.. Instant shelter/Solid(barring quake)/close to resources.. river/road/water.
AWESOME man.
Thinking outside the box..



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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 09:28 AM by AGENT_T



Originally posted by h3akalee ..
i also own a crossbow for larger game such as deer however i think these have become illegal..
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Yeah Bow-hunting.. Including X-bow is illegal.. NOT a consideration for SIT-X though as the law will have better things to do.

What Ya got? I was looking at the new self cocking 'swiss bow'


YouTube Link


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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 09:51 AM by h3akalee


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I own a Barnett Veloci-Speed with a red dot laser and scope.

The power of the weapon is about 340 feet per second.

I would class this weapon as being more than capable for killing large prey.

And in saying that more than capable of killing another human if need be.

And at a very acceptable range.

Take care.

Regards
Lee





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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 10:35 AM by shuck


My plan would be to get as far north as we could...the borders seems the best option , if the situation was bad it would be very difficult getting through the built up areas like Glasgow and Edinburgh..from my area its not far to get to open country via the backroads and get as far as we can!

Our holidays are spent wild camping in the borders and Scotland so we know the areas well.

Skills and knowledge.
Ex infantry soldier
Wife and I are ex nurses
My trade is a carpenter/joiner
trained in martial arts for 20 years
can map read and navigate with a compass
learned and practiced many survival skills
Train with horse bow and a good shot ( I can also make bows and arrows)
Have everything just about to survive all packed.
( The wife also has a pistol crossbow...the idea for that is she can watch my back!! )
Have some knowledge of edible and medicinal plants..

And we are not nutcases..just nice helpful people...and understand there is safety in numbers espcially if they all work together!! look after each other and share skills!



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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 11:00 AM by shuck


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Killing animals gutting and preparing...is something I find unpleasant too.. even though I was taught these skills (been a vegetarian for years ), however, when needs must ..I wouldn't have a problem!! you do what has to be done!



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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 01:48 PM by WatchRider


Shuck, that is one cool benchmark to follow!

You've made a good point in that many people in the UK get very edgy and suspicious of people who enjoy survivalist skills and the tools that go with them.

They immediately associate anyone with what you listed as a danger and a menace. It says something for our society that we scoff at anything approaching self-dependancy and being able to relay on yourself, using tools, hunting weapons, etc if necessary.
To give you an example I mentioned to one of my family I'd just bought a solar charger, 'What does that do?' was the response.
After about a minute of explaining that you can harness solar energy FOR FREE they finally grasped the concept.



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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 02:17 PM by shuck


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I just have one of them wind up radios...how big are these solar panel and what could they power?



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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 09:11 PM by WatchRider


Solar units are cheap now.
The good thing is you can dump the things and charge them up and forget about them while they do it.

Directly, a man-portable one can't power much bigger than a fan directly, unless the suns blazin'.
I use a small, day sack one.
The manufactorers put shtty 'buy our' adapters on them to discourge you using your own but some re-wiring sorts that out

Used in conjunction with a deep cell battery, inverter etc you can power all sorts of household appliances.
So important comms equipment like walky talkys etc are and the like can be charged rapidly and recharged whenever the the suns shinin'



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