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reply posted on 5-9-2008 @ 08:23 PM by vze2xjjk
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This crawler is facing uphill,soyou can't see the actuall face,protected by a roughly square or rectangular hood.It's about 5 ft long,like a tapered
spiral giant worm,but with a wide face.These animals are quite common on Mars,though I see more smaller ones.It has no visible legs but like an
elephant trunk gripper knobs for traction and mobility,bendability.
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reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 07:06 PM by MarsFanMag
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Originally posted by vze2xjjk
reply to post by Meganutter
Meganutter I see some other wild stuff near your find. I'll have to find the Hi Def pics and see these better.Thanks for your post.
Very well spotted for the blurred zones. Many edits by JPL!!!
I'll have a look in edits about your other findings.
May I suggest you would post the originals or crops, along with your edits? This is no wind-up, it's just that sometimes an pen/brush mark can cover
something else, very interesting. I notice that people tend to find elements just beside what OPs find, it's great by the way.
About the other photos, I too think that there are dead animals (like the long-neck+ elliptic head one I saw here or on the Living Moon site, or
sometimes live, like the snail things), or skeletons, since we have fossils it's a clear evidence of life-form base, already.
Carry on searching, I like your edits.
YOU were the one who circled the "Egyptian Statue" FIRST, by the way. So I edited my Info text on my video page.
TC!
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reply posted on 6-9-2008 @ 07:24 PM by MarsFanMag
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Vze2xjjk, I meant to add, from on your edit I quoted above, that the "head" shape (or sculpted statue-head/skull) shows to me that, one again, this
structured site could well be a cemetery. An ancient (or not so, perhaps) kept graves-site with a lot of efforts to make it respectful and
respected.
Special access via the artificial path which obviously isn't nature-made, to this Statue which obviously is one.
It seems to be a lot of "eyes" in the caves. These could be eyes-holes of skulls.
The one found by LEE_K and confirmed by myself, next to the "Egyptian Statue", is one of these imo, as , from further fine processing and filtering
on it, sharpening, I found this:
From LEE_K first edits:
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reply posted on 7-9-2008 @ 01:54 PM by MarsFanMag
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EDIT_________CORRECTION__________EDIT_________CORRECTION____
vze2xjjk has privately informed me that he didn't find the "Egyptian Statue".
THE CREDIT FOR THIS FINDING GOES OUT TO AMANDA REILLY, aka IamaMonkey, OP of this thread.
I have corrected this mistake on my video-information text.
Apologies,
Congratulations Amanda REILLY for the findings!
Mag
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reply posted on 8-9-2008 @ 04:08 AM by iammonkey
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reply to post by MarsFanMag
Thank you MarsFanMag for your time an effort in making that video. I appreciate it very much. As with everyone who has contributed to this thread. P.S
your added as a friend. 
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reply posted on 9-9-2008 @ 08:15 PM by vze2xjjk
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Since this thread is very active I want to throw in some insight on the diversity of Mars animals where Rick Reilly over the phone gave me the
observation I needed to confirm what I was seeing. Banana shaped walking animals seem so outlandish when you see them and have no animal on Earth to
compare them with,besides "Mister Potato Head" toys. I've posted one before who looks like a caricature of Bill Clinton.It looks so cartoonish,and
is not alone,with some others.There is a female who accompanies him.There are some shocking -looking animals on Mars,is my warning for when you see
what you just can't believe at first.It takes an open mind to see some of them.
MarsFanMag,nice job on that video.
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reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 04:37 PM by MarsFanMag
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Thank you Iamamomkey and Vze2xjjk, you've both opened my eyes. You're e-friends OK !
It certainly is very surprising to find all this!
Indeed we mustn't look with having in mind, the things we know and recognise on Earth, open-mind is needed and I have a very bad e-week on the
Structures thread I started and people who don't want to see and say that what we find with edition is created by edition... the highlighted
"Egyptian Statue" at St Vincent, topic of this thread, is such a good example of what we wouldn't see if we don't shed some light on the
subject!
This is ONE important discovery.
Without photo-edition processes 'it' couldn't have been isolated as its real shape.
Same for what is next to 'it'.
Animals:
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I too think that there are animals and remnants such as their skeletons etc...and of course they won't be a donkey or a lion.
Could you please post this picture Vze2xkkk? (or did you mean the "crawler" from same site?)
Have we got an Animal thread for Mars, here in this section of ATS?
Why not start one if we don't have any?
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reply posted on 11-9-2008 @ 05:00 PM by vasaga
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Interesting... This raises a lot of questions and i guess we're not gonna get any answers any time soon.
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reply posted on 15-9-2008 @ 07:31 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Sorry guys as an architect specializing in ancient structures and art, i think this "statue" is natural. According to the original nasa report, the
cliff is 50 feet high making this statue five feet tall max. Not exactly dramatic scale.
Its location in the cliff face doesn't appear intentional. Looks very randomly placed along a line of similar fractures. If this was the statue of
a god or significant martian person, a lot more effort would have been put into the carving. ie: grander scale and more prominent placement.
Whoever had this commissioned probably demanded the carver be banished to earth. Would explain how we ended up with the luxor casino in vegas.
I believe there is the possibility that civilizations existed on mars based on other research. In all my research, I keep a cadre of skeptics handy
to react to anything I am beginning to conclude on. I showed this photo in its original nasa hi res version to one of my most openminded skeptics.
she immediately noted an eagles head shape surrounding the spot i was pointing to on the photo. (I didn't identify what i was looking at to see if
she first spotted it on her own. ) Eventually I had to point out the "statue" and she conceded it resembled "abraham lincoln" but was definitely
natural.
I don't think we have a strong case with this image. Others won't buy it so I'm concluding it needs other images taken from other view points.
Don't see any in the nasa files although I didn't spend a great deal of time looking. Noticed that Opportunity is rolling away from the location so
future photos not happening.
Great hunting to whoever spent the time finding this tiny image buried in this massive nasa photo compilation. I hope your social life is healthy.
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reply posted on 16-9-2008 @ 05:42 PM by marsrocks
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Cool find! Here is my youtube video of this interesting find:
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reply posted on 16-9-2008 @ 06:50 PM by Lee_K
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Nice video! Nice to see it with a bit colour and with the zooming in and out. Thanks for posting... Appreciated!
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reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 09:54 AM by marsrocks
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Thanks, Lee_K. I've been meaning to take a closer look at this one for awhile, and try to apply some color to it.
I think the Egyptian statue and the Indian head are discernable and distinctive from the surrounding geology. They are both smoother surfaces and
higher albedo (slightly brighter) than the rough rock surfaces nearby (particular take a look at the Egyptian statue's smooth cut body, and the
smooth roundness of the Indian head). That's not conclusive in any way that they are artificially produced, but it is a bit of evidence in that
direction, as rocks that have been sculpted or cut, would lose their rough surface, and look smoother. And as the rock underneath the naturally
formed surface is exposed, those areas would appear brighter to us.
I believe this shot was composed using Ames super resolution software, which is effectively like having a better lens on the rover cameras. The
details are probably correct, although there is certainly a chance of artifacts/errors being introduced in the process by the software.
MarsFanMag - your video skills are excellent. I like your shots, in your video. I guess seeing your video finally inspired me to take a closer look
at this one also. I look forward to seeing what you come up with next, and I've subscribed to your channel on youtube!
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reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 12:30 PM by MarsFanMag
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Hi!
Excellent video above, so well made and showing these structures very clearly.
Here is an article about the Mars Caves and potential life:
www4.nau.edu...
Hi to friends, see you soon, Mag
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reply posted on 17-9-2008 @ 10:24 PM by AlienCarnage
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Saying these anamolies are statues or whatever is just as useless as someone saying they are rocks. there will be no clear answer to these things
until an archeoligical mission is sent to Mars whether it be a manned mission or robots like the rovers. Until this happens everything is just
speculation.
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reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 01:00 AM by MarsFanMag
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Hello and thank you very much, and nice to see you here Mars Rocks!
I'll PM you on You Tube as your video is so brilliant, I want to ask you about one particular technique.
I love your video so much I posted its link onto my ATS thread,"Martian-made structures...etc". I'm very glad that mine inspired yours and what a
performance you give. Hope other things get found!
I found symbols underneath the other 'statue', the one on Vest Valley called the 'Humanoid figure', seeming to be of female kind and pointing her
arm or holding something. They look like ancient greek symbols...funny how ancient Earth civilisations seem to coincide with Mars.
There's also this finding expressed by SuperSlovak on his thread, about similarities between Egyptian pyramids and these pyramidal shapes on
Cydonia.
Let's carry on in the searches and video work,   and see you round soon on the threads hopefully,
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reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 10:28 AM by marsrocks
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Hey, and thanks for the link about Martian caves! I'd be glad to share any techniques with you. Just PM me on youtube. I think there are far too
few of us curious enough to explore the images and look for the odd stuff. I think it's terrific that others, like yourself and a number of the
members here, are interested in pursuing an adventure where the definitive answers may not be found for years after our time.
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reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 05:18 PM by MarsFanMag
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Oh MarsRocks, don't be so pessimistic, will you,  , perhaps we'll all be still here when further discoveries are made, and perhaps, I get a jolly
good instinctive feeling to this one, some of the stuff we find on these threads (much including this present One indeed), will be worth looking at,
studying, before it's our time to leave our physical status!!
I'm convinced that NASA for example DO study the same things as us. They have paid researchers who do search & research EVERY PHOTO, imo.
Hopefully we'll get to know more about Mars and hopefully we can contribute to pointing at the intriguing zones there, or at least to some. Saying
"WE" in general for everyone who contributes to the findings, even though, some of us perhaps don't feel the importance of their work...Everyone's
opinion is sincere and is valuable, I think. For it takes someone to post anything that will be publicly read, seen, and sometimes copied for further
discussion elsewhere!
This work we do 'off-scene' but based out on real photo elements, well without reach of any glamorous light, may be MUCH valuable, I agree, but,
yes, perhaps not in such a long term,
Like George ORWELL wrote, with his "Winston SMITH" ' fictional character, 39 years old, reckoning it was "1984", (he had no real truth about
anything, much like we have now..) 'I write for the Future, I write for the future generations IF they get a chance to read what I write,' (for in
the system he describes, he can be killed for writing a diary, let alone a book, with "BIG BROTHER" 's CAMERAS WATCHING EVERYONE--in their OWN
HOMES!...[rings a BELL? CCTV everywhere...even in your OWN neighbourhood corner, with VIEWS to your OWN back-garden! 2008] [ "BIG BROTHER " is
ORWELL's OWN INVENTED EXPRESSION! Well foeseen, what do you think?]
--I think that the Author wrote for US /and for or Grand-Children,/ AND FOR future Humans in general, 'The Unborn', (YET), for THEM NOT to forget,
that we ARE BORN WITH RIGHTS, and if these rights are BREACHED, then WE SHOULD DO something about it!
Anyway, as I talked to you about, here is my link for a discussion I like for its topic, "MARTIAN-MADE STRUCTURES..":
www.abovetopsecret.com...'
I forgot to put a question-mark to its title in my enthousiasm.
I have a real passion for Mars and it's not new. I got to admit I'm very intrigued on other planets too, like OUR OWN, EARTH! :loveheart:, and
Venus, Neptune and Jupiter, and all/ our Galaxy, and Other Galaxies!
Let's not forget one thing: the TRUTH ALWAYS EMERGES, in the end, for ANY situation. Earth wasn't FLAT and never was,  , Let's keep the work
going;
TC,
Mag
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reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 06:45 PM by Lee_K
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I also think Nasa look well into these things aswell. I mean there the ones taking the pictures! They must be looking at every fine detail of every
picture. And if they did miss this "anomoly" then i'm sure they'll know its being discussed on the internet. So they must know about it!
Yet how come they dont go out their way to prove what it really is with close up shots and such! Just to prove that life DOESNT exist up there!
Instead you dont hear anything about it from them...
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reply posted on 18-9-2008 @ 07:02 PM by ArMaP
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Probably because the large majority of the people on this planet does not even know that those photos exist.
Then we have those who know those photos exist but they ignore that there are people that think this shows artificial structures, and this last
category is very small when compared with all others.
So, even if they know that there are some thousands of people in the world discussing a possible artificial origin for these structures, they probably
think that the effort is to small when compared with what could be gained (almost nothing, most people do not change their minds in cases like this).
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reply posted on 19-9-2008 @ 04:37 AM by Lee_K
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I agree with what your saying, when you put it like that. But the guys at Nasa must have discussed this image within thereselves. Or at least
investigated in more detail. Yet you dont hear anything from them...
What I mean is this is a picture that borderlines between rock and statue. Because its just not detailed enough for anyone to say 100% yes its a rock,
or yes its a statue. So what we have is something that 'could' be an alien artifact. Nasa would be totally stupid to look into this with more
detail. Unless they actually do know a lot more than their letting on.
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