CT's reply to mdiinican & NWO disinfo agents & fascist neo-Nazis.
"Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination & legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds & mortgages must be
foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile & more easily
governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers. This truth
is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world. By dividing voters through the political
party system, we get them to expend energies fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has
been so well planned & successfully accomplished. ~Aug. 25, 1924 USA Banker'
mdiinican: You aren't borrowing your own money when you're taking out a loan or financing buying a house or car.
CT: Yes you are, if its a publicly owned central bank like the founding fathers (except Hamilton, who was a Bank of England agent) wanted.
"We began planning the Revolutionary War in order to issue our own money again ...and keep King George III and Bank of England from enslaving us with
debt, and making Americans their financial slaves. By the time the revolutionary war started, Apr. 19 1775, British taxation had sucked the gold and
silver out of the American colonies, to Britain. So, we had to print money to finance the war." ~ Benjamin Franklin, a 'founding father', 1706-1790
mdiinican: You didn't earn it.
CT: Neither did the bank. The just used fractional banking to turn $1 into $10 -- it's totally counterfeit money. It's supposed to belong to the
people of the United States, to the public. But the Fed stole it.
mdiinican: You plan to over a period of several years, plus enough to pay for the interest, but it's not your money. You're using the bank's
CT: baloney. the bank doesn't own the money ... sorry.
"If this mischievous financial policy which has its origin in North American during the late war in that country, shall become endurated down to a
fixture, then that Government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without debt. It will have all the money necessary
to carry on its commerce. It will become prosperous without precedent in the history of the world. The brains, and wealth of all countries will go to
North America. That country must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe." ~ Hazard Circular, 1865 London Times, speaking of
mdiinican: which they pretty much made up, as long as there's about 10% of it left in cash reserves. But it's not your money, and you pay to use it.
That's the whole freaking idea of interest.
CT: wrong. the idea of interest is 580% is straight theft, plus, they're using counterfeit money via fractional banking.
mdiinican: Banks tend to charge much higher interest rates on borrowed money than they give out to money they're keeping because they're for-profit
CT: the money that banks are using is owned by citizens of foreign countries and by foreign banks. They're not for-profit enterprises, they're
thieves and counterfeiters.
As I told you before, you need to read Eustace Mullin's, "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve", so you have some idea what you're trying to talk
about. But I'm sure you won't, because your a NWO disinfo agent and try to destroy the truth and cause suffering and despair, joblessness and
free online copy of ‘Secrets of Federal Reserve’, by Eustace Mullins www.whale.to...
CT: Also, you now have looked at the opening post and presumably you've found out where the 580% interest comes from. Do you get it?
"Whoever controls the money of a nation, controls that nation & is absolute master of all industry & commerce. When you realize that the entire
system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation &
depression originate."~ President James Garfield, 1881
mdiinican: Housing and land, for example have been going up faster than gold for the past century or so.
CT: fannie mae and freddie mac are owned by the same bankers that own the fed, and we owe the fed 9 trillion and we owe fannie & freddie 5
That's in less than 100 years. You bank worshippers support the financial thieves and murderers of the NWO.
mdiinican: The fact that I don't use any credit system does not mean I don't believe it's a sensible and useful system.
CT: right ... it's so sensible and useful that you don't use it. why don't you practice what your preach ... sounds hypocritical. Is this your
motto: "It's good enough for the common people, but I'm better than that because I'm priviledged" --
mdiinican: Mabye if people realized that credit is serious business, and not just some magical source of money (well, on the consumer's end, that
is), we wouldn't need threads like this.
CT: maybe if we had a publicly owned central bank like the founding fathers wanted, that charged no interest and didn't allow fractional banking, we
wouldn't be paying 580% interest and be 14 trillion dollars in debt.
Let's get down to it: are you for or against the NWO? Let's settle this nonsense once and for all.
mdiinican: It is a 6% fixed rate mortgage. Not 580%. You will end up paying that much, but at a six percent annual rate, compounded continuously (or
monthly, or whatever is specified). They don't have to tell you how much you'll end up paying out by the end of it; anyone with half a brain can
look up the formula for compound interest.
CT: then why can't you understand the chart on the opening page. YOU simply support the NWO and are arguing for more exploitation. Most mortgages
last 3 years, duh ... what interest have you been paying?--READ THE CHART AND READ THE OPENING POST, are you gettin it?
mdiinican: It isn't so much predatory lending as the vast majority of loan-takers not knowing a damn thing about how financing works.
CT: You are a NWO disinfo agent.
mdiinican: Nobody should be surprised by this; they taught me the math I need to figure out how much I'd end up paying back in eighth grade.
CT: so. what does that have to do with the American Revolution being fought against the privately owned Bank of England for financial freedom. Since
you seem more and more illiterate, I've furnished some quotes from the presidents against concept of the privately owned central bank ... I don't
expect you to read them, nor do I expect you to understand them if you do ... because you're a NWO disinfo agent.
mdiinican: Also: who wants a publicly-owned US central bank?
"The privilege of creating and issuing money is the supreme prerogative of Government, the Government's greatest creative opportunity. By adoption
of these principles, taxpayers are saved immense sums of interest." ~ President Abraham Lincoln, 1861-1866
CT: the founding fathers -- oh illiterate one.
mdiinican: Since when did anyone on ATS want MORE government? ...
Why would you trust them over people who's motives you can easily know and
CT: I seen now you're just a NWO/disinfo agent. look, the "government is bailing out fannie and freddie with several billion dollars of public debt
on top of the 5 trillion we already owe them -- it's people like you who are ignorant of how the system works and how the NWO works, that are
responsible for everything that's bad in the world. EVERYTHING IS YOUR FAULT. because of your false pride and cowardly promoting debt and poverty.
You NWO disinfo agents are the worst creatures on the planet.
mdiinican: Maybe most people don't get it, but really, that's their fault.
CT: No, it's your fault for worshipping the Fed and having no understanding and being unwilling to educate yourself -- you worship the NWO, you are a
NWO disinfo agent. You apparently lack the intelligence to understand the simple figures on the opening page ... and you lack the will or ability to
read the true history of this country in terms of the hardships caused by the private central bank robbery of U.S. citizens, and the institution of
the IRS to keep people in financial slavery. You have no idea of what the NWO is, and, even more sadly, you worship it.
"Banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of
their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks & corporations that will grow up around will deprive the people of all property until
their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks & restored to the people,
to whom it properly belongs." ~ President Thomas Jefferson, 1801-1809
"Bankers are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out & by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of
our central bank system, there would be a revolution before morning. If the central bank continues to control our currency, receiving our public
monies, & holding thousands of our citizens in dependence, it would be more formidable & dangerous than the naval & military power of the enemy. It is
not our own citizens only who are to receive the bounty of our government ... More than 8 million dollars of the stock of this bank are held by
foreigners ... Is there no danger to our liberty & independence in a bank that in its nature has so little to bind it to our country?"
~ President Andrew Jackson, 1829-1837
YOU ADVOCATE FASCISM, PLAIN & SIMPLE.
[edit on 6-9-2008 by counterterrorist]