Have to agree with mybigunit... Damn this happens a lot.

There's been a bit of an epidemic lately in my home area, that I will bet is not unique. We get a LOT of illegals from Mexico. I believe these are the poorest of Mexico running up here to the states.

But in my area, they are mostly all fat. I wonder if all the poor in Mexico are the same, or if they go into "culture shock" here, with food all over the place? After a hard day of work, they are able to drive through ANY fast food, and get loads of unhealthy hamburgers, for $1 a piece.

I've heard it said, that many poor people develop a sense for this. When times are GOOD, they EAT. Subconscious thing, after there being so many days of going without.

Is Portland the only place with overweight illegals, or what? LOL

One dimension I haven't seen explored is the inverse relationship in developed nations between wealth and obesity.

Generally, the wealthy elites are svelte and trim, due to their personal chefs and nutritionists. They can afford membership at a gym (or have it as an executive perk at their office, country club, or condo). They eat better food, health food and can afford affectations such as "organic" and "free range." If they are obese now, they can afford a relatively expensive diet program of frozen pre-cooked meals. Failing that, they can drop several thousand for elective gastric bypass surgery that is unavailable without insurance.

On the other hand, the poor eat crap.

Fast food is consumed by the working poor, not the idle rich. Not a lot of gourmet meals call for ramen noodles or baloney. People who do shift work frequently eat out of a vending machine, eat standing up, or are alotted 12 minutes for a "lunch hour." I know guys who spend their lunch "hour" sitting in the vehicle line at a fast food restaurant, and then gulp down the food while riding back to the office--and none of them are exactly vice presidents.

Like the attack on smokers (also poor people), the attack on obesity is a thinly disguised class war, used to lock you in to your current role in society.

Altogether, it's another sign that the globalists look down on the working classes, and want to tax them because they're already relatively poor.

Good work, globalist oppressors.

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I guess there are so many things you can blame for everything in this world but only one thing to be true. If you're happy with yourself whether you're shinny, medium size or just plain fat then who cares what others think. People can talk all they want about someone else but until they experience what they talk about then it's jibberish. Also people are all different. Some can eat tons of food but their high metabolism keeps them skinny. Others can do everything right and still gain weight. I guess we all need to know that we don't know crap about obesity because to many things factor in with it. Obese is just a word not the fact. We are all unique and have our own problems and situations in the circle of life and need to worry more about fixing ourselves before we look at others and their problems.

It took reading this thread to make me realize that, so thank you all for bringing me back to reality.

I'm sorry, I got sick of reading through the thread, as it is obese with ignorance.

If obesity in America today is predominantly about bad choices, then someone please explain to me how so many people suddenly decided to start making these bad choices in one generation. Did everyone really suddenly decide on their own to start making bad choices, or are there really larger social factors at work here? Social factors that do indeed fall upon all of society to take responsibility for, not just the afflicted.



Who's fault is this?



Sure, blame the parents. The parents love killing their own children slowly.

But at least you only have to blame the parents for eighteen years, and then you can turn your blame on these poor kids who never had a chance to start with.

The simple fact of the matter is, the primary cause of obesity is the low nutritional levels in our foods. This is done intentionally, for profit. The people who are in control reap enormous profits by selling us "food" with little or no nutritional value to start with. And then turn a tidy profit when people get sick because of it. But of course, they don't really offer a cure, and the victims wind up dieng young and penniless. It's a vampire scheme. Fatten them up for the slaughter. And we have morons on this thread defending the #ing vampires!

Here is how it works, directly. You are hungry, you have no time to cook on your way to your second job. You stop and get some fast food "value" meal that has the normal maximum daily intake of fat and calories. You eat it. An hour later, you are hungry again. Why? Because of the hormones in the food, that chemically induce hunger. But there's more.

The meal you just ate, had very little real nutritional value. So while your stomach is full, your body is still sending signals to the brain calling for nutrients, and thereby triggering hunger. But of course, you can't eat anything else until tomorrow, because you've already met your fat and calorie intake for the day. What do you do? Either you eat another low-nutrient meal. Perhaps even five or six a day just to try to get the nutrients you need, or you literally begin to starve. Not from lack of food, but from lack of nutrition.

Twenty percent of people with diabetes are not overweight. So that means that obesity does not cause diabetes. Diabetes is caused by poor nutrition. Obesity is a symptom of the body trying to fight off the effects of poor nutrition.

And don't think that if you stay away from fast food that you are safe. Even food you think is healthy can lead you down this viscious cycle of overeating calories in an attempt to gain essential nutrients. All of the produce in your supermarket is irradiated, and therefore nearly stripped entirely of whatever nutrients happen to be left after being grown under conditions that make the food virtually useless. Except for profits of course. You think that's a tomato you're eating? Yeah right. Not any more. Resembles a tomato, but has the flavor and nutrition of a red notebook. Or take the humble potato. The salvation of the Irish. An approxiamate 80% loss in nutrition across the board in the last few decades.

So to all you morons who blame the individuals for obesity, all I can do is laugh and stuff my face with this cheeseburger knowing that you're next on the meat hook.

[edit on 5/17/0808 by jackinthebox]

All I can say is, when you let someone else take care of the food for you then you will suffer all the after affects. Grow your own and get back to the good ways of feeding yourselves is safer. Or you truly investigate the food you're eating before hand. When I talk to my co-workers about farming your food they always say they don't have enough room. Well I guess if you choose to live downtown with everything surrounding you then that's true. But if you have a back yard that everyone thinks looks good and green then plow it up and grow some food. Hell even a small front yard would work, but corn and tomato's aren't as pretty as those elephant ears and tulips.

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[edit on 17-5-2008 by BlasteR]

Originally posted by jackinthebox
I would highly recommend to anyone who has the means, that they should be growing their own food. That's a given as far as I'm concerned.

Luck favors the prepared! If our economy completely goes under then we may just end up trying to survive like in Mad Max n stuff . People getting ripped apart over gasoline and crap.

I dunno if it will get that bad but if it does then at least those who prepare now would have a better chance of survival further down the tube. I know I have plans for my family and I in case that happens. If you don't have a plan then you don't have any way of surviving if that were to happen. I'm not really a doom and gloomer but you gotta be prepared man! If you have a family then you should be considering your options now.

-ChriS