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Johnathan Reed's Close-Up Alien Blinking Video - best footage ever? (video)

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posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:47 AM
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Kilgour, its been over 12 years and no one, who claims this is fake, has shown how Reed did all of this if you think this is fake. Please give us some clues, Tell us in detail how he did it. How he made witness after witness, from bank tellers, to coworkers come forward and support his claims if this is all fake. Its been 12 years and Im still waiting on somebody to attempt that.

[when you do not attempt this, someone who is interested in this case is making note that you are not attempting to show how Reed faked this, if you really believed he did. Once you dont then youve just helped another person realized this case is 100% real.]


Kilgour, its been over 12 years and no one, who claims this is fake, has shown how Reed did all of this if you think this is fake. Please give us some clues, Tell us in detail how he did it. How he made witness after witness, from bank tellers, to coworkers come forward and support his claims if this is all fake. Its been 12 years and Im still waiting on somebody to attempt that.



[and again, when you do not attempt this, someone who is interested in this case is making note that you are not attempting to show how Reed faked this, if you really believed he did. Once you dont then youve just helped another person realized this case is 100% real.]




posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 09:50 AM
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Oh and by the way, the govt kills over the suppression of THE TRUTH and none others. they dont waste time expundging records over false stories.
thats utterly and amazingly ridiculous for idiots and gullible imbeciles to come in droves trying to convince others of that.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 10:07 AM
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Oh the hypocracy.....you ask of others what you cannot give yourself!


Originally posted by nerbot
I'm still waiting for you to forward MY quote about "killing witnesses over a hoax"......no rush.
cheers....nerb


And you still haven't provided your evidence that ANYONE has been "killed" by anyone. Do you also understand that people die every day under normal circumstances too, or is that also an impossibility in your opinion? Your presumtion over goverment killings is an unfounded delusion pure and simple.

YOU provide evidence "they" killed anyone and then someone may actually accept some of the narrow-minded views you have.

As for the witnesses you speak of, you are naive to ASSUME they are not as gullible as you are. You obviously didn't read the information in the link I posted....just like you haven't fixed the broken links you supplied in your youtube clips. You are running a race with nobody. If you looked behind you, you would realise that. What are you afraid of?

You obviously spent hard earned cash on that book and regret wasting the money.
Sorry you can't justify your ignorance here.

Have fun in your one-man race...
I shall watch with amusement as you stumble and crawl your way to nowhere......see ya!

there..another couple of points for you.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 12:52 PM
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What witness's?
He was alone when he found the plastic ship and killed the rubber alien.
The only people who are supporting/in cahoots with all seem to be co-workers at the minimart he worked at.
People can lie about the credentials and its been proved he isn't a doctor.
He kept the Alien alive in his fridge for a few days and instead of calling up CNN or film the alien alive and moving decided to grab a tape recorder just for the sounds! (squeaky balloon!)
Nearly every aspect of this case falls through as the evidence is absolutely crap and corny as hell.
I bet he's still shedding fake tears for that non existant dog too!
Its a hoax.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 04:56 PM
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And lets not forget this man Rutter suffered from allergy's and people who knew him said he wouldn't be seen dead wondering about in the woods. Also he's never owned a dog because of said allergy.

So how about coming up with names of these people who have been killed by the government, or names of any of these other so called witnesses.

We can come up with a list of names of people who knew Rutter, knew what a fraud he was and knew he'd come up with this story years before he decided to put it all together into one big scam.



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 08:29 PM
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Running out of material???



posted on Jan, 4 2009 @ 08:37 PM
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Michael Wessels [analysed blood samples from the alien being Dr Jonathan Reed brought to him and Dr Roger Haggart(d)], a research chemist in the UW's Dept. of Environmental Health since 1988, died in August after falling from Monte Cristo Peak in the Mount Baker Snoqualmie Natl. Forest in northwest Washington. An outdoors enthusiast, he apparently fell to his death on the way down after scaling the summit. His research focused on contaminated Superfund sites, as well as industrial hygiene contaminants. He was 42.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 02:08 AM
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Whether or not you believe in this case, it is infact a hard one to debunk considering the lack of evidence that's been brought to the table.

People are debunking this on gut feeling and/or their personal opinion. This is not how we solve a case.

I'd also like to state that his character/background has nothing to do with said case. Pictures of him dressing up in a chicken costume doesn't exactly back up your fictitious claims/inability to bring conclusive evidence to the plate. Your opinions, although nice to hear are not credible. And this case will never be closed if you insist on bringing up irrelevant facts.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 08:19 AM
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No but pictures of him dressing up as a chicken and going to partys with friends while supposedly being on the run from the government in fear for his life, yes they do matter.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 09:07 AM
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Eisbaer very valid points.
Eisbaer writes: Whether or not you believe in this case, it is infact a hard one to debunk considering the lack of evidence that's been brought to the table. People are debunking this on gut feeling and/or their personal opinion. This is not how we solve a case. I'd also like to state that his character/background has nothing to do with said case. Pictures of him dressing up in a chicken costume doesn't exactly back up your fictitious claims/inability to bring conclusive evidence to the plate. Your opinions, although nice to hear are not credible. And this case will never be closed if you insist on bringing up irrelevant facts.

VisionTruth: Its been 12 years and Ive seen nothing from skeptics or debunkers stating the HOW, [if they really believe its false] EXACTLY HOW Reed did all of this. The black diamond floating off the ground.
The change of skin color of the creature.
The blinking.
The red eye.
The witnesses whom all came forward.
The deaths of Wessels and Haggard. How did he do all that hoaxing???
How did he hoax Haggard and Wessels death???
HOW
HOW
HOW
HOW
HOW
?????? I NEED ANSWERS DEBUNKEY PEOPLE. HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW
HOW???????? How was this one man able to MAKE BOB CAVEAT OFFER HIM $150,000 So he could refuse it. HOW
HOW HOW
HOW
HOW DID HE DO THAT? HOW
HOW
HOW
HOW
HOW
HOW
HOW??? HOW HOW HOW???

HOW
HOW
HOW??? HOW
HOW
HOW??
HOW
HOW HOW
??? HOW? HOW?

And why cant debunkers why cant debunkers dispute any of this after 12 years?



The reason why is because they can not
. And the reason why they can not is because its all absolutely the truth. And the debunkers even know it



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 10:00 AM
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Originally posted by visionandtruth
And why cant debunkers why cant debunkers dispute any of this after 12 years?


168 replies to this thread and a dedicated website of no less than 9 pages (etc) and you don't think it's been "disputed"



And the reason why they can not is because its all absolutely the truth.


YOUR truth...yet you offer NO PROOF of your claims, just "DISPUTED" evidence.


And the debunkers even know it


Do we? The only thing I know for SURE is that I know nothing for SURE. It's called having an open mind, you should try it, you'll be surprised how revealling it can be.

I'll waste no more time on this as you refuse to remove your head from the sand.

Ignorant, dumb and a very poor attempt from an ATS newbie.

May I suggest you return to the O.P. and start again, this time with an open mind and the possibility that you could be wrong.
as "I" COULD also...but you have presented nothing to make me think I AM except hypothetical foot stamping and stubborness.

Ta-ta my friend.....nerb



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 10:40 AM
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Nerbot, this idiot will come back on now and say the debunkers have been defeated now that you have decided to leave.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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And as stated previously and will be stated yet again. I ask H O W.

Its been 12 years and Ive seen nothing from skeptics or debunkers stating the HOW, [if they really believe its false] EXACTLY HOW Reed did all of this. The black diamond floating off the ground. The change of skin color of the creature. The blinking. The red eye. The witnesses whom all came forward. The deaths of Wessels and Haggard. How did he do all that hoaxing??? How did he hoax Haggard and Wessels death??? HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW ?????? I NEED ANSWERS DEBUNKEY PEOPLE. HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW???????? How was this one man able to MAKE BOB CAVEAT OFFER HIM $150,000 So he could refuse it. HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW DID HE DO THAT? HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW??? HOW HOW HOW???
HOW HOW HOW??? HOW HOW HOW?? HOW HOW HOW ??? HOW? HOW?
And why cant debunkers why cant debunkers dispute any of this after 12 years?


The reason why is because they can not . And the reason why they can not is because its all absolutely the truth. And the debunkers even know it



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 04:01 PM
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ITS BEEN 12 YEARS AND NOBODY HAS DEBUNKED THE VALIDITY AND REALITY OF THIS ALIEN ENCOUNTER. PEOPLE HAVE EVEN BEEN PAID TO LIE OUTRIGHT ON DR REED AND THOSE SAME PEOPLE HAVE NOT EVEN MET THE GUY. Your disinformation agenda has failed and there are people worldwide ready for this story to come full-circle.

When you present premeditated debunkers with video footage, photographic evidence, physical blood samples, dna, skin, muscle, tissue samples, hard evidence: THE ACTUAL LINK ARTIFACT, witnesses; bank tellers, co-workers, landlords, all going on the record through video taped testimony, researchers corroborating Reeds story through-and-through, Jaime Maussan, Art Bell, Wendell Stevens, Dan Mcevoy who witnessed Dr Reed using the LINK Artifact there is not much else needs to be said.

Once the debunkers are backed into a corner where they know they can not win they have to continue throwing up in the air the same mantras THAT USED TO WORK but no longer work.


There is too much proof against you. The only other thing you can do is attack any supporter personally. Does not bother me one bit. Threatening them. Does not bother me one bit. Why threaten someone if this is not real? Why do people have to be threatened, physically attacked, and even killed over what idiots want to make others believe is a false story. Stop trying to place fear in others who believe this story. YOUR DAY of DISINFORMATION IS OVER. People can now see the same repetitive tactics used over and over by premed-debunkers.

Dr Jonathan Reed
Alien Encounter.
Absolutely True.
www.odisealink.com



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 08:27 PM
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EISBAER WRITES:

Whether or not you believe in this case, it is infact a hard one to debunk considering the lack of evidence that's been brought to the table
[BY THE DEBUNKERS BECAUSE THE SUPPORTERS HAVE BROUGHT NOTHING BUT HARD PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, VISUAL EVIDENCE, PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE AND NONE OF ITS BEEN TAMPERED WITH AND HAS BEEN PROVEN ROCK SOLID! GOOD OBSERVATION EISBAER. GOOD CALL!]

People are debunking this on gut feeling and/or their personal opinion. This is not how we solve a case [EXACTLY].




posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 09:25 PM
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Ok so I dont know if anyone mentioned this because I didnt want to read through 9 pages of replies but I noticed on the first page someone says this Dr goes under many names including John Rutter... anybody notice the name of the person posting the videos on youtube? JoanScutter... Joan Scutter John Rutter
this dude needs to think up some better names! Its obviously the Dr who is responding to everyones posts on youtube defending the videos but never saying it is actually him. Either way you have to hand it to him if it is a hoax its a pretty good one.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 09:41 PM
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Originally posted by visionandtruth
Kilgour, its been over 12 years and no one, who claims this is fake, has shown how Reed did all of this if you think this is fake. Please give us some clues [...]


Clue #1: It's been 12 years, and he hasn't come up with anything to positively prove it. Twelve years.

I don't think you need any more than that. Around here, "it could be true," or "the dog ate my homework," just doesn't cut it. Sorry.



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 10:02 PM
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I'm sorry I have to rain on the parade - note of skepticism here... he goes into nonsense detail about what to do withthe alien ... if it were real ... i dont think he would stretch the story here with too much detail about what he thought about doing with the alien ... Its fishy and since we have supposidily evidence can I see more proof please... so far .. ah, ok ... haloween comes to mind...



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 11:17 PM
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Originally posted by visionandtruth

People are debunking this on gut feeling and/or their personal opinion. This is not how we solve a case [EXACTLY].



What physical evidence? Where is this evidence? This man was proven a fraud over and over again. Why would anyone still be defending this story?



posted on Jan, 5 2009 @ 11:20 PM
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Originally posted by visionandtruth
HOW HOW HOW??? HOW HOW HOW?? HOW HOW HOW ??? HOW? HOW?
And why cant debunkers why cant debunkers dispute any of this after 12 years?


I have a dragon in my Garage and I bet you $150,000 that you cannot ever prove that I do not no matter what you do? Does that mean that I really have that dragon or that you need to get over this idea of not being able to prove something did not happen. The money is right here.



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