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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 10:59 AM by mlmijyd
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I remember seeing this a long time ago and the photo of the black 'ship'? But having seen the 'heavy breathing' video it’s as FAKE as FAKE can
be, really bad over acting and you’d not keep over breathing in a fear situation for so long. The video moving ALL the time is just so 'Blair
Witch'. So he’s so frightened to go right over to black craft but has the presence of mind to what keep videoing trees, no bushes, no ground, no an
alien, no I’ll get those bushes again for effect?. No all fake in my opinion, even the so called alien's look like all the other fake aliens ever
hoaxed. I'm sure their was money to be made from all the UFO lectures and was there a book?
Nothing to see here, move along
But when you've got an audience that just want to believe

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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 11:40 AM by Skipper1975
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those pics of the machine,portal,toolbox whatever it is are doctored imo.
those are not the original pics or they were messed with....
all i'm going to say is that aliens are real and here..the ones from fire in the sky are the same race as the one that Reed encountered(at least on
the looks of them)
do a search on the internet...watch this series
www.youtube.com...
i don't see why the government wants to cover this up considering that Nibiru is on it's way and they are gonna have a much larger issue with that
then this imo.
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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 11:51 AM by Melyanna Tengwesta
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The footage doesn't look real to me. It looks 'staged'.
The part where the 'alien' is taken out of the freezer and 'communicates' with Reed:
- sounds like a parrot squeeking
- WHY are the other parts all footage (vids or stills) and ONLY this 'communication' part only in AUDIO????
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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 01:33 PM by Alethia
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Originally posted by verylowfrequency
Here's the photos that go along with the videos (story).
That's my entire archive. Still looking for the screaming alien in the freezer audio.
[edit on 17-5-2008 by verylowfrequency] 
Come on now, these photos are laughable, please tell me no one really believes this. A 5 year old could do a better photoshop job than those "alien
spacecraft in the woods" shots. And as for the alien, it looks completely stiff and carved out of wood, and I'm supposed to believe it blinked? And
it stopped off at a thrift store to pick up a black polo neck before heading out to the woods huh?
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reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 07:51 PM by TheComte
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In all honesty it looks like paper mache painted black. No way that is or was living tissue.
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reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 10:56 AM by VisionQuest
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Originally posted by jimmyjackblack
That's what I thought.
Nobody can combat the evidence I have shown.
Don't be fooled folks, if it were real, we wouldn't be able to watch it!
The gov would take it away and store it off in some topsecret place or burn it or destroy it some how.
The only reason why we get to see vids and pics like this is because the person making them wants to be famous and or make money.
-Jimmy 
Art Bell has the one of the original tapes that Reed gave him in 1996. That, to me rules out CGI. There is a chance this story could be fabricated,
but your lack of investigation into the details into this story kind of makes us all look foolish. You cant get to the truth if you dont take a closer
look at the details. The aliens in your video (Fire in the Sky) compared to the Reed video look nothing alike. I could make a bullet point list pages
long as to how they are different. That much I can prove.
Again, Im not ruling out a hoax, but the degree to which many (not all) ATR's yell hoax without even bothering to completely and thoroughly examine
the details presented is very shocking
For those of you who have visited ufowatchdog.com, I can only suggest you read with the same skepticism you would in investigating any UFO case. That
site has made claim after claim about Mr.Reed without providing ANY documents of proof. Multiple pages of alledged interviews from family and friends,
and accusations with almost no verification of claims made.
In fact, ufowatchdog.com has even gone so far as to falsify info. to strengthen their case, alledging that Dr.Chacon (the doctor who analyzed blood
and tissue samples) did not have a degree in Microbiology from the Pontifical Catholic Univ. of Puerto Rico as they offer no such degree. But by web
search found that they do indeed offer such degrees.
more info
How is this responsible investigation? Even for us skeptics, we must be aware that the govt. does sponsor disinfo. sites, and ufowatchdog.com has been
accused of this by more that one investigator.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 12:50 PM by Melyanna Tengwesta
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Originally posted by Alethia
Originally posted by verylowfrequency
Here's the photos that go along with the videos (story).
That's my entire archive. Still looking for the screaming alien in the freezer audio.
[edit on 17-5-2008 by verylowfrequency] 
Come on now, these photos are laughable, please tell me no one really believes this. A 5 year old could do a better photoshop job than those "alien
spacecraft in the woods" shots. And as for the alien, it looks completely stiff and carved out of wood, and I'm supposed to believe it blinked? And
it stopped off at a thrift store to pick up a black polo neck before heading out to the woods huh? 
Over the last 2 days I watched the 2 first Raiders of the Lost Ark & Temple of Doom movies. In both movies the female friends of Jones end up in a
room with skelets ... I see some similarities with these pix.
Proof DR.REED alias John Bradley Rutter: alien & artifact are fake:
removed broken link
external image
[Mod Note - removed malformed google video link]
[edit on 22/6/2008 by Sauron]
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 01:46 PM by FosterVS
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This picture pretty much sums up "Dr. Jonathan Reed":
AGAIN - this was exposed conclusively as a hoax by Royce J. Meyers III and others ages ago: Reed
Hoax
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 03:09 PM by VisionQuest
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Originally posted by FosterVS
AGAIN - this was exposed conclusively as a hoax by Royce J. Meyers III and others ages ago: Reed
Hoax

I'm not ruling out hoax either, but the Royce Meyers report sited absolutely no solid references as to where it got its information, as well it
provided false info. in some areas. Did this fact just completely miss you? There's more to investigating a case than doing a Google search my
friend.
If that 'report' is conclusive info. to you, I really don't know what to say.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 06:01 PM by jetflock
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This thing began as a hoax, or rather, an attempt at recreating this type of scenario. No use in defending it, really. Its all good.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 07:11 PM by FosterVS
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Originally posted by VisionQuestas well it provided false info. in some areas. 
Interesting - can you extrapolate on what you consider "false info"? And how you can determine the info is false, unless you are either connected or
are Rutter yourself?
 There's more to investigating a case than doing a Google search my friend. 
I have known about UFOWATCHDOG for years, as well as the Reed/Rutter hoax since the beginning. I have corresponded in the past with Royce.
Where is Mr/Dr Reed/Rutter now? Off on another scam I am sure, grifted as much as he could off this hoax.
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reply posted on 20-5-2008 @ 11:47 PM by virraszto
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I watched the video and listened to the Art Bell program, but what I didn't hear was, what happened to the black craft? Did it autopilot itself out
of there? and what happened to the alien?
I do believe aliens are visiting earth, but I had a hard time believing this story.
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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 12:39 AM by Twisted-Inside-Out
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That alien looks horribly fake.
But then I've never seen a real alien before, maybe they actually do look fake...
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reply posted on 22-6-2008 @ 04:57 AM by Anonymous ATS
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Now youre starting to see just how disinformation mechanics operate. THEY SIMPLY LIE simply to MAKE PEOPLE NOT BELIEVE.
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reply posted on 22-6-2008 @ 05:57 AM by Acharya
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It's impressive fottage, I don't know what to make of it. The aliens I saw as a kid did not look like this one does though. Someone once pointed out
that on some of the still footage of the alien we can see "red eyes" reflection, I am no doll maker, but the person that pointed this out claimed
that making a doll that will realisticly get red eyes like living creatures eyes does would be very difficult, but I guess that the red eye effect can
be photoshopped into the image afterwards though.
-A
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reply posted on 23-6-2008 @ 08:04 AM by WISHADOW
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Ok. Say all of it is real. I'm not up to speed here but what happened to the body and the obelisk? Don't tell me the alien was able to recover and
they both said goodbye at some point.
And who's to say that more video exists. Perhaps more video of the being conscious and going crazy. You'll never know..
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