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Ephraim Come Home! Are You Part Of The 10 Lost Tribes Of Israel?

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posted on May, 16 2008 @ 02:52 PM
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Ephraim Come Home! Are You Part Of The 10 Lost Tribes Of Israel?

After King Solomon died, Israel divided into 2 kingdoms.

The 10 northern tribes rebelled against Solomon's son and became known in the Scriptures as "the house of Israel" or as "the house of Ephraim" which referred to the most dominant tribe in the northern kingdom which was Ephraim.

3 tribes (Judah, Benjamin and the Levites) stayed in the south and they became known in the Scriptures as "the house of Judah" which referred to the most dominant tribe in the southern kingdom which was Judah.

As we see in the following Scriptures, God promised to bring back both Judah AND Ephraim to the land of Israel in the last days. Judah (the Jews) started returning to Israel in 1948. However, God also promised in Ezekiel 37 that Ephraim WOULD return and be reunited with Judah:

Ezekiel 37:15-22

15 The word of the LORD came to me: 16 "Son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, 'Belonging to Judah and the Israelites associated with him.' Then take another stick of wood, and write on it, 'Ephraim's stick, belonging to Joseph and all the house of Israel associated with him.' 17 Join them together into one stick so that they will become one in your hand.
18 "When your countrymen ask you, 'Won't you tell us what you mean by this?' 19 say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I am going to take the stick of Joseph—which is in Ephraim's hand—and of the Israelite tribes associated with him, and join it to Judah's stick, making them a single stick of wood, and they will become one in my hand.' 20 Hold before their eyes the sticks you have written on 21 and say to them, 'This is what the Sovereign LORD says: I will take the Israelites out of the nations where they have gone. I will gather them from all around and bring them back into their own land. 22 I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of Israel. There will be one king over all of them and they will never again be two nations or be divided into two kingdoms.

So the promise of God is that once this happens they will never be divided again.

Has this happened yet?

No.

So it is a prophecy that is waiting to be fulfilled.

This promise of a reunification between Judah and Ephraim is also found in Isaiah 11:

Isaiah 11:10-13

10 In that day the Root of Jesse will stand as a banner for the peoples; the nations will rally to him, and his place of rest will be glorious. 11 In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.

12 He will raise a banner for the nations
and gather the exiles of Israel;
he will assemble the scattered people of Judah
from the four quarters of the earth.

13 Ephraim's jealousy will vanish,
and Judah's enemies will be cut off;
Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah,
nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.

So who is Ephraim today? Long before Christ came, Assyria invaded the northern kingdom and took the ten tribes away and scattered them to the four winds just as the Scriptures foretold.

So how can we identify them today? A good place to start is in Genesis.

Genesis 48:17-19

17And when Joseph saw that his father laid his right hand upon the head of Ephraim, it displeased him: and he held up his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head unto Manasseh's head.

18And Joseph said unto his father, Not so, my father: for this is the firstborn; put thy right hand upon his head.

19And his father refused, and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also shall become a people, and he also shall be great: but truly his younger brother shall be greater than he, and his seed shall become a multitude of nations.

The term in v. 19, "a multitude of nations", should literally read "the fullness of the gentiles" because that is what the Hebrew text actually says. Even back in Genesis, God knew that Ephraim would someday be mixed in with the gentile nations.

Today God has been revealing to His people that much of what is called "the church" around the world is Ephraim. But Ephraim is unfamiliar with many of God's ways:

Hosea 8:11-12

11Because Ephraim hath made many altars to sin, altars shall be unto him to sin.

12I have written to him the great things of my law, but they were counted as a strange thing.

Isn't that an exact description of our day? God has written to Ephraim the great things of His Law in the Bible, but we consider the "Old Testament" to be a "strange thing", don't we?

But the days of restoration are coming just as the Lord promised through Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 23:5-8

5 "The days are coming," declares the LORD,
"when I will raise up to David a righteous Branch,
a King who will reign wisely
and do what is just and right in the land.

6 In his days Judah will be saved
and Israel will live in safety.
This is the name by which he will be called:
The LORD Our Righteousness.

7 "So then, the days are coming," declares the LORD, "when people will no longer say, 'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the Israelites up out of Egypt,' 8 but they will say, 'As surely as the LORD lives, who brought the descendants of Israel up out of the land of the north and out of all the countries where he had banished them.' Then they will live in their own land."

The truth is that God is calling Ephraim from the 4 corners of the earth to be reunited to his brother Judah, and they will have one shepherd (Yahshua - Jesus) over them.

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posted on May, 16 2008 @ 03:30 PM
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I identify strongly with Joseph and Ephraim. I am of Northern European descent, French, German, and Anglo-Saxon. I am a born again Christian. When I read in Isaiah of the highway and the return, it was like the future unfolding before my eyes.



Isaiah 35

8 And an highway shall be there, and a way, and it shall be called The way of holiness; the unclean shall not pass over it; but it shall be for those: the wayfaring men, though fools, shall not err therein.

9 No lion shall be there, nor any ravenous beast shall go up thereon, it shall not be found there; but the redeemed shall walk there:

10 And the ransomed of the LORD shall return, and come to Zion with songs and everlasting joy upon their heads: they shall obtain joy and gladness, and sorrow and sighing shall flee away.


Isaiah 60

1 Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.

3 And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.


I have this incredible sense of anticipation now. It gets stronger all the time. I feel as though I am being called to the Holy Land.

May the Everlasting Father reveal my place in His plan, and may I order my steps accordingly.



posted on May, 16 2008 @ 03:46 PM
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Now this is very interesting.
Thank you.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 02:19 PM
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For those of you who don't believe that Ephraim (the 10 lost tribes of Israel) exist today, then I would love to hear how you think the prophecies of Ezekiel 37 will be fulfilled.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 02:23 PM
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I suppose people that have no way of knowing without family history or genealogy if they are sons of Ephraim or not. So most if they are, will not return home.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 02:35 PM
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This may not appeal very much to the voice of reason, but I don't think when the time comes it will take a genealogy for the children of Ephraim to return to the Promised Land. I think it will be instinctive, almost on the order of a gene memory. That is as close as I can get to expressing it in physical terms. I think it will be a spiritual happening with a physical expression.

When the time comes, the children of Ephraim will know who they are and where they need to go.

My take on this may be poppycock to you, and I can't help you with that.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by MandM
For those of you who don't believe that Ephraim (the 10 lost tribes of Israel) exist today, then I would love to hear how you think the prophecies of Ezekiel 37 will be fulfilled.


well there is a big consideration here...

If they don't believe they (the lost tribes) exist, why would they think the bible is true? So if they don't believe the bible is true, then they wouldn't even think the prophecies are anything more than man written drivel to enslave the gullible?

[edit on 23-5-2008 by Chiiru]



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 02:46 PM
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think i'll give it a miss to be honest, if god is only going to take people from the holy land and ignore all the good, loving and humble people from everywhere else, he sounds like as bad a concieted nurotic as anybody who believes themselves to be singled out by birthright for its favour. given the choice, i'll risk damnation over spending eternity with that crowd.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 02:56 PM
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Interesting take, and I would call it a clean miss. Your preconceived notions of who God is and what He does are being expressed with the bitterness of wormwood, and getting in your way, imo. You are welcome to spend eternity as you please, with whom you please. Its up to you if you want to hate God and His elect, He still loves you.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 03:41 PM
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meh, seems to me i could say the same about you my friend. my god is a wise father who loves all his children equally, you write as if yours is a tribal chief. given the choice between a loving father and a spiteful and petty tribal chief creating the universe, i know for sure where my money lies.

although i must admit, the bitterness is there, but not for god, for the dogs in the manger whos only job is to worry the sheep and not let them rest until the shepherd comes.

and make no mistake, the shepherd will come, like a thief in the night and he will give no warning when he comes. but the dogs in the manger should fear the shepherd because he hates hypocracy and wishes only rest for the sheep so vengence will fall on the dogs in the manger more liberally than on the wolves, because the wolves were only ever wolves, and made no claim to lead the sheep, only to worry them. they were true to their nature.

appocoliptic enough for you to understand or should i spell it out?

3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.

god has no elect, if you knew the gospels as well as you knew your appocolyptic phrophecy you'ld already understand that.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 04:15 PM
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I know that is from the Gospel of Thomas, and you have no idea what else I know. I also know your last post has the stench of a dog returning to its own vomit. Enjoy your meal.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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Ah, I did it again! I keep telling myself I have to stop responding in kind and escalating the rhetoric. I do myself a disservice in taking the bait like a trout rising to the fisherman's fly.

I apologize and ask your forgiveness.

Anyways, there is only one God; He loves us all and wants us all to be saved. He loves the sinners but hates the sin, a distinction I obviously have yet to make.



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 05:56 PM
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i followed everything.. up till the point that you tried to identify the
10 lost tribes using Genesis historical names,
which both preceded the prophecy
that stated that in the end of age Ephraim [i.e.: peoples of the lost 10 tribes of Israel] would unite with encompassing tribe of Judah
((which has presently co-opted the name/title Israel)).

...and those peoples will, at the end of age, include peoples from:
Assyria, Upper & lower Egypt, Cush, Elam, Babylonia, Hamath, Islands of the Sea ---
these islands would include Cyprus/Crete dozens of Greek & Turkish islands in the Aegean Sea & the larger Mediterranian Sea

And Altogether comprises an area:
basically north Africa from the Egyptian-Lybian border and portions of the Mediterranian seacoast in a crescent towards Greece at the furtherest northwest frontier




++++++


the final uniting of Judah & the real Israel (Ephraim)
will also have an altogether different name than the present zionist Israel created by mankind in 1948. The name for the united peoples for the lost 10 exiled tribes and the scattered peoples of Judah will take the name
that corresponds to the term "The LORD our righteousness"
not the present Jewish state we know as Israel today, as the name Israel
means (roughly translated) --In Contention With God and Not The Lord our righteousness......





imho, we are all living in the times of 'great delusion' that Jesus the Prophet, told us of... where even the elect could be deceived ~if it were possible ~
Hagee, the neocons, the dominionists, the born-agains, etc etc etc
and all-of-us are actors in this ongong drama/opera !

1starfortheOP



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 06:55 PM
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I have wondered if the end of the Palestinian Mandate was the true beginning of the New Israel. That date is huge to a lot of people, too. The misnomers pile up and Judah becomes Israel. But when will the nation known as Ephraim in the time of Judah become New Israel? Is that the question we should be asking?

And on another note, did Shiloh already come? Is someone hogging the scepter?



posted on May, 23 2008 @ 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Icarus Rising
I have wondered if the end of the Palestinian Mandate was the true beginning of the New Israel. [...]

But when will the nation known as Ephraim in the time of Judah become New Israel? Is that the question we should be asking?



the OP cited an appropriate verse in scripture which gives us a clue...
~but that apparent 'clue' just may be tainted with my/our human intellect & wishfull thinking and interpetation....

in any case, -> the OP quotes;

Isaiah 11:12
[1] He will raise a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel,
[2] He will assemble the scattered people of Judah from the four quarters of the Earth



so, there are two seperate & distinct parts of the True ( & yet future) Israel :


[1] "...a banner for the nations and gather the exiles of Israel..."

which seems to mean that the exiled Israelites, have already, historically assimilated into the peoples of Assyria, upper/lower Egypt, Cush, Elam, Babylonia, Hamath, & the Sea Islands


This far flung and diverse people, scatterd amongst 7 geographical borders, become distinctly seperate from the Arabs & Persians holding steadfast to the Islamic Caliphate vision.
ie: peoples from 7-8 border Egypt, Ethiopia, modern Palestine/Israel. Lebanon, Syria, portions of Iraq and Turkey and Greece and Cyprus===
come under a 'banner' as a goup or bloc in distinct opposition to their 'enemy' ... a 'bloc' rather than a singular a 'Nation"...


this bloc --- together with the:
[2] tribe of Judah which is assembled
(a formal & layered organization such as in a nation-state ) do join together, eventually ! ( thats the meaning of the two parts of Isaiah 11:12 .. And also the longer range meaning behind the joining-of-the-two-sticks...
which is explained as Ephraim (the group) & Judah (the nation) form a bloc of people under one banner, called The LORD our righteousness)


sorry, that's the best (albiet) disjointed way i can express the conundrum


[edit on 23-5-2008 by St Udio]



posted on May, 24 2008 @ 02:24 AM
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i have had similar feelings regarding the holy land. Saying that isn't persistant so it maybe just me.

i agree the lost tribes are still out there. isreal is just judah, problem is from an indiviual level are we judah, a lost tribe or a gentile????

cant wait to find out though

david



posted on May, 24 2008 @ 02:40 AM
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Originally posted by MandM

God promised to bring back both Judah AND Ephraim to the land of Israel in the last days.


well ephraim returned Judah back to the land, On December 9th 1917,

(during the Festival of Hanukkah which commemorates the recapture of the Temple by Judas Maccabeas) British General Allenby liberated Jerusalem from the Turks.



Judah (the Jews) started returning to Israel in 1948. However, God also promised in Ezekiel 37 that Ephraim WOULD return and be reunited with Judah:


im not sure whether this has happened back in 1917 or if this will happen only at the return of Christ.

all the best

david



posted on May, 24 2008 @ 05:31 AM
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Originally posted by Icarus Rising
I know that is from the Gospel of Thomas, and you have no idea what else I know. I also know your last post has the stench of a dog returning to its own vomit. Enjoy your meal.


nice image, makes no sence like, doesn't mean anything, guess i struck a nerve. considder yourself forgiven.

so anyhow, this quote seems pretty clear to me.

In that day the Lord will reach out his hand a second time to reclaim the remnant that is left of his people from Assyria, from Lower Egypt, from Upper Egypt, from Cush, from Elam, from Babylonia, from Hamath and from the islands of the sea.

..snip..

13 Ephraim's jealousy will vanish,
and Judah's enemies will be cut off;
Ephraim will not be jealous of Judah,
nor Judah hostile toward Ephraim.


so that'll be muslims then. who on earth does it fit better than the nation of islam. is there peace between jews and muslims? how can the prophecy be fulfilled without this peace.

then there is the prophecy of the highway, in what sence is the modern nation of isreal a light? where is the highway, what is it? i don't believe the way of holiness has not come about yet.



posted on May, 24 2008 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by pieman
3. Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you.


That is what I believe is true.
Either that or God has made many orphans that he doesn't seem to regard as worthy simply because of the fate of their birth.

We are all children of God. None are more or less, there are just those that want to feel special above all others.

God shouldn't have an elitist crowd should he?


Originally posted by Icarus Rising
I also know your last post has the stench of a dog returning to its own vomit. Enjoy your meal.


Yikes.

Do the chosen have short tempers, not unlike the God of floods and plagues?
I guess I'm not in the club then.



- Lee

[edit on 24-5-2008 by lee anoma]

[edit on 24-5-2008 by lee anoma]



posted on May, 24 2008 @ 08:09 AM
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I don't claim to be one of the chosen. Just called, and doing a poor job of following my calling on this thread. I wasn't angry, just being way too harsh. I don't have to get mad to be a jerk. Pieman was rude and I was ruder. Old habits die hard.

The point is, it is your choice to make. I would only hope people make an informed one.



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