U.S. sees need for "tangible action" on Iran: Israel, page 4
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reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 05:26 PM by Keyhole
reply to post by WhatTheory



Well, if you look at the bottom of the article, you'll see the authors name, Tina Susman.

US confession: Weapons were not made in Iran after all

According to a report by the LA Times correspondent Tina Susman in Baghdad: “A plan to show some alleged Iranian-supplied explosives to journalists last week in Karbala and then destroy them was canceled after the United States realized none of them was from Iran. A U.S. military spokesman attributed the confusion to a misunderstanding that emerged after an Iraqi Army general in Karbala erroneously reported the items were of Iranian origin. When U.S. explosives experts went to investigate, they discovered they were not Iranian after all.”



So, I wouldn't say it's "some idiots blog". And apparently, looking at the lnks on the post above this one, the MSM is now picking up the story!

All you have to do is find an article where the US or Iraq are STILL saying that they have Iranian weapons that they found in Iraq! AFTER this article was published of course.

And if it's total BS, it should be pretty easy! They've been ranting about it all the time, of course that was until they discovered that the weapons weren't Iranian!

IRAQ: The elusive Iranian weapons

There was something interesting missing from Maj. Gen. Kevin Bergner's introductory remarks to journalists at his regular news briefing in Baghdad on Wednesday: the word "Iran," or any form of it. It was especially striking as Bergner, the U.S. military spokesman here, announced the extraordinary list of weapons and munitions that have been uncovered in recent weeks since fighting erupted between Iraqi and U.S. security forces and Shiite militiamen.



Even the US military spokesman in Iraq has stopped saying the weapons were made in Iran!

[edit on 5/17/2008 by Keyhole]


reply posted on 17-5-2008 @ 10:48 PM by Ownification
Originally posted by WhatTheory
The individual who made this post really needs to take their head out of the sand and try to learn how to think on their own instead of allowing misguided individuals tell you how to think.

I don't think this passage applies to me because I'm an individual who came from a background of Muslim and I never listened to claims without evidence which lead me in not believing Islam. Your claims don't apply to me, it, in the other hands applies to you since you listen to the bogus Mr. Bush and Mr. Chainy has to say without any shred of proof.

Originally posted by WhatTheory
I guess you don't read or comprehend what you are reading because who said anything about invading Iran?

"yeah we can just drop a few bombs on their nuclear facilities...good idea."
(bringthelight) and you replied:
"Good, Im glad we agree it's a good idea." (WhatTheory)
You think that Iran is going to just watch America do such an idiotic act against their sovereign nation?? You think this is not going to lead to another invasion?? Are you seriousely telling me that this action won't lead to a wider war, let's say Russia jumps in, Russia already pissed off with US Missile Defence in Europe. "take their head out of the sand", this little passage applies to you waaaaaaay more than me I guess.

Originally posted by WhatTheory
Secondly, its not a suspicion. Not only is Iran developing nuclear weapons,

I can't believe you just said it's not a suspicion, OH MY GOD!!! Only President Bush would make such an idiotic claim, I'm not being harsh but that's the truth. Let me define for you the term suspicion: " the act or an instance of suspecting something wrong without proof or on slight evidence "http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/suspicion

Since you claim that it is not a suspicion, you hold the burden of proof. You go to FOX news or where ever, and bring me some evidence which would once and for all pursuade me on believing that it's not a suspicion it's a fact, and if you achieve this mission impossible 5, I will make the proclamation that "Let's bomb Iran". DEAL??

Originally posted by WhatTheory
they are killing U.S. troops in Iraq by providing arms, men and money. You would probably be the first to condemn Bush for not doing enough if a year or two from now Iran uses one on Israel or provides one to a group to set one off here in the U.S.

Once again, this is also a suspicion. Since you made the claim please provide us some shred of evidence that supports the idea of Iran providing arms, money or what ever to the Iraqi militias. If Iran bombs Israel I wouldn't blame Bush, I would blame Iran. Everyone would lol, is it not obviouse. Iran did it, they will be held responsible for it. Iran at the moment is using its "right under article four of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, to pursue a 'peaceful' quote-unquote nuclear energy program."(Mr. Kimball)


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 02:07 AM by THELONIO
reply to post by WhatTheory



yeah i know how it sounds, give it a bit more thought and consider the links between the rothschilds and the rockefellers and hitler, sometimes the strangest things are true, is iraq not an illegal unnecessary war and afganistan, no doubt the goverment will lie to you so that you stand there shouting "yeah whoop, kill all the commie muslims, yehaa", open your eyes to the fact that in the eyes of the people of the world war must be justified, so our "leaders" therefore must justify it


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 02:40 AM by scarlett1125
Originally posted by mybigunit
reply to
post by WhatTheory



No one has proven Iran is supplying weapons and everytime we are supposed to prove it "something comes up" Even if they are supplying what the hell do you think we would be doing if China invaded Mexico and had a huge army...we would probably slip a few bombs in also..


Israel may be our ally but they are also the cause of a lot of our problems because we feel the need to protect them....Let them protect themselves their are big boys.




and defending ourselves from lunatics is Ok but when has Iran invaded our country? When has Iraq? When did Vietnam? When did N Korea? When these guys invade I say kick their a$$ but until then stay our of their business. The taliban did invade and they got what they deserve.

[edit on 16-5-2008 by mybigunit]


Doesn't "defense" imply that there has been an attack? While I realize that the best defense is a good offense, we have the offense. We don't need to do preemptive strikes against other countries to get what we want. We need to take care of ourselves and our interests. Intelligence is key. Unfortunately, we have no intelligence (military or common sense) in our current government.


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 03:35 AM by The Godfather of Conspira
reply to post by Infidel 101



So how is a war against Iran illegal when their Special Groups and Republican Guards are meddling in Iraq, and when did pre-emptive become a bad thing?


It became a bad thing right after Afghanistan and Iraq. Right after everyone wiped away their false tears and released the US had no justification to invade either of those countries.

You don't execute possible criminals pre-emptively, you have to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt & moral certainty" their guilty.
Last time I checked, America was, or... at least claimed to be democratic.

You sure as hell don't take the chance of killing millions of people and flattening another nation without solid evidence that you have a justifiable pretext to.

Read the previous posts, Iran has yet to be linked to anything. There is no proof. Thus pre-emptively attacking them IS illegal. All the US has is rumors and allegations, just like they did with Iraq; which their now try to spin and blow out of proportion to make Iran seem like Nazi Germany.

God's sake what is with you chickenhawks, invade this, invade that...
Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and sign up?
Until then stop talking about friggin' war because you have no clue.

[edit on 18/5/08 by The Godfather of Conspira]


reply posted on 18-5-2008 @ 04:15 AM by The Godfather of Conspira
reply to post by THELONIO



Lol.. funny you mention Australia.
Well the convicts could be granted a Full Pardon upon the end of their sentences, if they displayed good behavior and a desire to lead a normal life. Which is why many renounced their criminal ways; so they could have a fresh start here, instead being shipped back to England, where the lower classes didn't stand a chance in life.
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