U.S. sees need for "tangible action" on Iran: Israel, page 10
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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 05:53 PM by pepsi78
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Link?


www.heritage.org...
Iran’s arsenal now includes sophisticated mines, anti-ship missiles, submarines, and aircraft procured from China, Russia, and North Korea that will make defending the Persian Gulf a much more difficult task for the U.S. military.

You see they have submarines from russia, aircrafts and alot of missle tehnology.So russia is selling weapons to iran , iran to iraq and your GI
are dieing.So taking Russia out solves the problem, their the main source.Acording to your wish then you should attack Russia because Russia is the main source.How come you don't attack Russia and China?

If I asked you why United States suplied weapons to war lords in somalia
or to other dictators like the one from Saudy arabia you would answer me
it's just bussines.right?

Or do you want to wach on tv eating popcorn the show? of how great your military is?and then to come and explain to us how you liberated another country.Like your avatar is saying home of the brave right?
Brave guys with guns in their hands, how cool is that?

Note the only one that used a nuke and killed people in mass as an outcome and created a mini holocaust that can be felt even today as an efect was USA.Don't you find that ironic? and how you keep liberating countries by killing people?

I have a question what is the US in Iraq for? If american soldiers are dieing then they should all go home.It means you are not wanted there.
You came to look for something, big guns, you did not find any.


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 07:32 PM by pepsi78
Originally posted by WhatTheory
Originally posted by pepsi78
You see they have submarines from russia, aircrafts and alot of missle tehnology.So russia is selling weapons to iran

We all know about these, but we were talking about weapons which were killing U.S. soldiers in Iraq.

Well if they are selling submarines they are probaly selling guns also, mines to blow up humvees, ak47s their russian manufactured, sniper rifels and so on.They are even suplying besides the reactors nuclear fuel to build nukes so you should take on Russia. But wait, that would cause a global inferno with the planet going to hell, so why not pick on the pathetic Iranian army.
Fact is IRAQ did not attack united states. IRAN has not attacked United States.None of them would even dare, in the past , present and so on.

Tell me are you afraid of an iranian straped on a rocket heading for your house ? or do you worry more on how you cross the street , what you eat, and how you drive?What worries you more? What do you think are the chances of a 747 crashing in your living room filled up with iranians?

You should worry more about your health, aids kills more than terrorism, cancer kills more, car accidends kill more, people shoot more people on the street in the US than any terrorist.You simply want to go to buy something and a nut jobs pulls out a gun and shoots you in the head.
The funny part is that even if those things kill more they get less atention from the white house than terrorism.You know why ? because all of this is a bunch of BS. You need to start traveling , see difrent cultures, understand people, see difrent ways of life and difrent perceptions of things, get a passport Jack.







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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 08:53 PM by AreaMan
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I find it very hard to believe someone who managed to find ATS could be this ignorant.



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reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 09:56 PM by lightseeker
Originally posted by mybigunit


Israel may be our ally but they are also the cause of a lot of our problems because we feel the need to protect them....Let them protect themselves their are big boys.


As far as I am aware, they always have protected themselves. The U.S. has never sent troops to Israel. During Israel's sixty years of existence they have been involved in several wars with their arab neighbors; in every instance Israel has come out on top and with no help from anyone else.


and defending ourselves from lunatics is Ok but when has Iran invaded our country? When has Iraq? When did Vietnam? When did N Korea? When these guys invade I say kick their a$$ but until then stay our of their business. The taliban did invade and they got what they deserve.


First of all, we are not at war with Iran, yet. We are not at war with Iraq; Iraqis are fighting and dying right alongside our own troops because they want more than what they had under Saddam and more than what they would have under a religious theocracy should Iran or other Muslim fundamentalists and extemists gain a foothold in their country.

There is a strong case for saying that maybe we should not have invaded Iraq when we did but once we were actually there the Iraqi people as a whole embraced the idea of democracy and for the first time in their lives participated in the first free elections that country had ever known. Have you all forgotten the risks of life and limb that the Iraqi people took by even going to polls? But go they did and in droves! Remember all the "purple fingers"? Most of the Iraqi people don't want us to leave yet and most are grateful for the freedom they have now. I think we should start bringing troops home and let the Iraqis look after their own future but if we had not been there they would still be suffering and cowering under Saddam.

We were not at war with South Korea, we were there because South Korea asked us to help them defend against an invasion by N Korea and China. There was nothing shamefull about Korea and because of the US help they received, S Korea is still an independent and sovereign nation.

We initially entered the Viet Nam war for the same reasons, protecting S. Viet Nam from invsasion and ocupation by N. Viet Nam. I won't go into an in-depth discussion of why things fell apart in that conflict because it would take forever and there are about as many versions as people who hold them. The main point in every case was that we were trying to protect the little guy who was being attacked and overcome by the neighborhood bully. Iraq, Afghanistan and Israel are all the little guys and Iran, Syria and terrorist organizations like Hezbollah and Hamas are the bullies.

If we don't help when the little guys get attacked, then who will? Exactly, no one. What's really sad is that most of you will say, "so what" or "who cares", and of course, that's my point, exactly.


reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 10:10 PM by lightseeker
reply to post by AreaMan




You know the old saying, "it takes one to know one"; take a look in the mirror. If you have something to add to the discussion fine, but if your whole intent is just to bait and insult, then maybe you should head back under your bridge.



reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 11:11 PM by AreaMan
reply to post by lightseeker



It's funny because there is nothing to add to this discussion, "WhatTheory" has obviously made up his mind and would just like to argue for the Administration(or just gets a rise out of bashing the people on these boards), take a look at his posting history, this person is OBVIOUSLY not open to new information, or even thinking outside of what his government is telling him. People you're words are falling on deaf ears.

I would rather useless flame wars such as these remain on the bottom that drag on forever.

So I'll say it again:






reply posted on 21-5-2008 @ 11:27 PM by lightseeker
reply to post by AreaMan



There was no "flame war" until you showed up being an jerk.
If you do not like the discussion, then do not participate; otherwise I shall have to enlist the help of the mods to keep you from acting like the troll you obviously are.

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