Israelis were behind 9-11 !!

reply to post by Quarantine

ha...now that was funny

Simple question: WHY is America always on-hand to defend Israel? Don't they have enough military of their own? What about Israel makes them such an ally? What have they done for us lately?


It seems to me like a small country in the middle of nowhere, stirring up its own hornet's nest and having to deal with its own problems.


What makes Israel special? There are dozens of little countries around the world with similar problems. Why don't we come to their aid?


I just don't get it.

Look into these-'WAR BY DECIEPT'and TIM OSMAN and tell me what you find and if you believe it.

OMG those evil jews lets destroy them all, Wait I'm nat an arab who would do anthing to make the jews look bad. This is why knowone beleaves the conspiracy of 9/11. After reading this load of @#$% I have to a you people are crazy to.

Judging by the neocons that wanted a "Pearl Harbor-like event" to happen in order to push their agenda AND their duel-citizenship with Israel, I agree with the topic of this thread.

Originally posted by ianr5741

Simple question: WHY is America always on-hand to defend Israel? Don't they have enough military of their own? What about Israel makes them such an ally? What have they done for us lately?


It seems to me like a small country in the middle of nowhere, stirring up its own hornet's nest and having to deal with its own problems.


What makes Israel special? There are dozens of little countries around the world with similar problems. Why don't we come to their aid?


I just don't get it.

Money. Plain and simple. Alot of money which is used to influence decisions, opinions and political futures derives from those who whole-heartedly support Israel. Disgusting but true.

reply to post by gottago


Sorry, but if I don't like the real terrorists, that is not anti-semitism at all, regardless what you want to believe. You cannot play this card against me, because I don't care about it. That's my opinion, because I know them quite better then you. And yes, they were behind 911, they was the ones, whose intended to force the U.S. into war and whose are suffering for this? The people of the Middle East and the U.S. soldiers and their families. Who is staying out of it? The Israelis. So, tell me, what are they? They're surely not human, just some pathetic life form, nothing more. They figured this out to sacrifice others for their own good, to get more money with the business which is going there. And that's not civilized at all, but that's the major traits of a primitive culture. I'm not going to praise them and if you don't like to hear the truth, that's not my problem. But that's not and never was anti-semitism, because condemning someone who is not able to live in a civilized world, people whose are always lie to the public and using this anti-semite card to cover their evil acts... sorry, but I have every right to condemn them and their acts, just as everyone else.

You know, many family members of the victims, whose died at 911, or between that time and the present day in the Middle East are blaming the Israelis and the Neo-Cons in the U.S., because they know, they feel the truth. Are they anti-semites? No and they never was. They're intend to get and punish those ones, whose are caused all the suffering for their families. You know, they cannot hide the truth forever. And soon they will learn how to live in a civilized world, where they MUST and will take the responsibility for their evil actions.

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Look foolish Americans, Isreal is and was from the begining an Forward Operating Base (firebase) for the US. It's in a perfect location, and it does'nt need staffing. It can be reinforced from the sea, airbases in place, and no need to fly a flag over it. Now do you overstand why they knocked off FDR, Truman was their Chenney.

isnt this thread kindof racist? people who make these threads should be banned.

reply to post by blowfishdl


The original reasons why the US pushed for an Israeli-American alliance was to prevent Israel from becoming a Soviet ally in the 50's and 60's. Remember this, Israel's Zionist founding fathers origninally wanted to fashion Israel as a socialist state. A strengthening Israel-USSR alliance was strenghtening and America wanted to prevent communist socialism from expanding into the middle east. To prevent this, the US starting throwing arms and money Israel's way whcih in turn Israel used to silence the dissenting 90% majority population then muslim Palistinians. ( and Israel calls itself a democracy..lol) The US armament industry loves Israel because israel would then resell our arms to brutal south and Central American dictatorship governments bypassing laws which the US Congress imposed barring the US from direct arms sales to regimes with poor humanitrian track records. We are still paying (buying?) for Israeli loyalty under an obsolete Coldwar mindset. Israel is really a problematic ally and the root source of America's problems...and all this at a time when America is bankrupting itself fighting Israel's war for - a war Israle need to fight alone. All money, arms and political support given to Israel comes at a cost to peace and prosperity.

Lose The Race

Originally posted by SuperSlovak
isnt this thread kindof racist? people who make these threads should be banned.

Please read this post and confine your comments to the topic.

Thanks.

Originally posted by ianr5741

Simple question: WHY is America always on-hand to defend Israel? Don't they have enough military of their own? What about Israel makes them such an ally? What have they done for us lately?


It seems to me like a small country in the middle of nowhere, stirring up its own hornet's nest and having to deal with its own problems.


What makes Israel special? There are dozens of little countries around the world with similar problems. Why don't we come to their aid?


I just don't get it.

No offence but all your answers are in the Bible lolxx

isnt this thread kindof racist? people who make these threads should be banned.

Can you please clearly your own comments about this tread if you cant i request moderates of this thread to put this kind of comments in junk.On ATS we can discuss any topic on any thing until you provide supporting documents
and i think i did good in it.So how could you claim its an racist thread i dnt say any thing about Hitler here on this tread.I am NOT RACIST IS IT CLEAR FOR YOU OR DO I NEED TO SAY ANYTHING AS TO MAKE YOU UNDERSTAND I AM NOT RACIST.

I am not Muslim or Christian so i can be fare enough to look in this matter as conspiracy against a nation more then anything as.It was very well calculated attack on a nation in that way to expose Muslim to American as anti American. If i am right if you talking about religion as well Muslim also respect Jesus as much Christian do.If i am right in the post war government thr were Christian too.

Now talk about 5 Israelis ,if you say its just an co incident that they were jumping & laughing it ok they dnt care if thousand of people die its ok.But what about explosives what the hell they going to do with explosives full of Van ????????????????????

So if you dnt like to talk on reason more then calling this thread racist then you sick and i cnt help you in this

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reply to post by 123space


Where did you find van full of explosives with Israelis dressed as Saudis and with Saudi passport?
I asked you twice and you did not answer. This is of course you full right and you can write what you want but what is the reason then?
I went into couple of conspiracy sites and the closest i can see is a van driven by Israelis who worked for that company - urban moving systems - in which police dogs trained for sniffing explosives showed signs that there were probably traces of explosives.
I do not trust those sites but there is some sense in this claim.
What you state is so enormously wild that i do not know for what purpose it is written.
You probably will not answer it also.

reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


Zero, I originally posted the fake Saudi passports statement. I have tried to find where I read that, but I have been unable. All the info I can find is just fake passports with no further detail. Therefore, I will retract the "Saudi" part of that until can find anything further.

The explosives was reported by Dan Rather here: youtube.com...

This is the dancing Israeli's:

The police and FBI field agents became very suspicious when they found maps of the city with certain places highlighted, box cutters (the same items that the hijackers supposedly used), $4700 cash stuffed in a sock, and foreign passports. Police also told the Bergen Record that bomb sniffing dogs were brought to the van and that they reacted as if they had smelled explosives.

The Be On The Lookout for a white van also turned this up:

a white van with a bomb was stopped as it approached the George Washington Bridge, but the ethnicity of the suspects was not revealed. Here's what the Jerusalem Post reported on September 12, 2001:American security services overnight stopped a car bomb on the George Washington Bridge. The van, packed with explosives, was stopped on an approach ramp to the bridge. Authorities suspect the terrorists intended to blow up the main crossing between New Jersey and New York, Army Radio reported.

The first van contained 3 Israeli's who immediately said: "We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem." Which coincides with the phone call made to police earlier that day:

Dispatcher: Jersey City police.
Caller: Yes, we have a white van, 2 or 3 guys in there, they look like Palestinians and going around a building.
Caller: There's a minivan heading toward the Holland tunnel, I see the guy by Newark Airport mixing some junk and he has those sheik uniform.
Dispatcher: He has what?
Caller: He's dressed like an Arab.

The caller frames the Palestinians and sends the police to the wrong location, The Holland Tunnel. Meanwhile, they are headed to the George Washington Bridge to pick up the 2 guys dropping the van load of explosives there. However, the police reacted by closing all bridges so this plan was thwarted and the guys were caught.

reply to post by RomanMaroni


Well i also find info about fake id, and a van that dogs SMELLED explosives while police searched it. So it means that it sometimes during its service transported those. I do not know how it can get into movers van, but no explosives were found at the time of search.
And then this Saudi documents then Saudi clothes then van full of explosives....
It is like taking one fact and then start throw dirt just to make a logical pathway. Van with Israelis - Van with fake id and money and trace of explosives - Van packed with explosives with Israelis in Saudi clothes with Saudi passports.
I do not know about you but if i was policeman arresting those guys - i do not know what these conspirators who just killed thousands and framed hundreds of millions have to do just to silence me except kill me. A van full of explosives with Israelis in Saudi clothes with Saudi passport is a definite prove that Israel was behind that. And yet no policeman came out and said - hey listen what we found..... Forget policeman, i saw no mention of explosives packed van with Israelis anywhere. And you also provide info without links. So to me it is very suspicious.
You have to understand - i live in Israel so if my government is somehow responsible - then it is unimaginable!!!!!! Those people should be punished!
But then people who say it use cheap propaganda tricks to make one situation look like totally different.
Edit - spelling.

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reply to post by ZeroKnowledge


First of all let me say, I don't think your government was behind 9/11. I don't think it was a "government" operation. I think there are individuals within certain organizations who worked together to get this done. I can't point a finger at anyone in particular, I can only say that there seems to be a lot of suspicion regarding the hijackers themselves. These hijackers seemed to be either the luckiest people on earth or they were receiving assistance. It seems as though they had Mossad, CIA, and FBI people around them all the time, but no one noticed. They entered my country, some on watch lists, and were able to do whatever they wanted without even trying to hide. They were also receiving money from ISI members. They encountered no resistance despite agents looking directly into them and reporting it, but nothing was ever done.

Then you factor in there were arrests of Israeli's celebrating these attacks, filming it and acting what I would consider suspicious. They were described as dressed like Arabs and immediately blamed the Palestinians. Why would they immediately say it was Palestinians? It was supposed common knowledge, Bin Laden had declared holy war on us. So why would they immediately think Palestinians? Had Palestinians hijacked and suicide bombed planes before? Did the Palestinians declare holy war on us and we didn't know it? What would they gain? What did Al-Queda gain? These guys had explosive residue in a moving van. The moving van company was owned by an Isreali who within days closed up shop and went back to Israel. He even left behind work that was already scheduled. Two of the men were determined to be Mossad. We have a report of a white van packed with enough explosives to blow up the George Washington Bridge. But earlier a call is placed to police saying Palestinians were going to blow up the Holland tunnel. Again we see this Palestinian reference. You would know better than me, but how does someone look Palestinian? It's like they were trying to frame someone and get out.

We have a news series documenting what was described at the largest spy operation in the US and that involved Isreali's spying on the US. (I believe I posted a link to it earlier). At this point I say hold on. What is really going on here? We have several key government officials with dual citizenship with Israel. But just the mention of this information, and people immediately start calling you anti-semite and anti-American. Anyone who would mention this in our government would immediately be branded as a Nazi and their political career would be over.

We have several key government officials with dual citizenship with Israel. But just the mention of this information, and people immediately start calling you anti-semite and anti-American. Anyone who would mention this in our government would immediately be branded as a Nazi and their political career would be over.

I agree with you on this statements...so by doing it indirectly they saying stay away from this kind of talk or not even think to investigate about it.Only believe what we say

Why did President Roosevelt in 1939, refuse to provide a safe harbor to the MS St. Louis, a freightliner full of 938 hopeful Jewish immigrants seeking asylum, eventually forcing them back to Europe to be captured by the Nazis?

Why did Joe Kennedy Sr., father to John F. Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy, seek a personal meeting with Hitler in September 1940, "to bring about a better understanding between the United States and Germany."?

Why was Prescott Bush, George W. Bush's grandfather, smuggling funds and weapons to the Nazis as Director of 'Harriman Fifteen Corporation', sharing ownership with Fredrick Flick, a member of Heinrich Himmler's "circle of friends"?

Why did the United States of America make no effort to intervene in Auschwitz slave concentration camp after hearing news of the atrocities from first hand witnesses that escaped Auschwitz. The Allies were notified prior to 1940 and yet they did nothing, allowing Auschwitz to murder millions only to be liberated by the Soviet Red Army in 1945.

Why did the United States of America, an Israeli "ally" send the USS Liberty, a spy ship to the coast of Egypt just prior to the Six-Day's War (June 5, 1967) at a time that Egypt, Syria, and Jordan were massing troops along their respective borders in preparation to attack Israel? Why did the US Ambassador publicly lie to the world at the U.N. announcing that they had no ships within 350 miles of Israel and the battle? Why did the very effective Israeli Air Force which took out the airfields and aircrafts of Egypt, Syria, and Jordan in less then 4 hours "mistakenly" bomb the USS Liberty?

Why in 1967-1970 did the United States Navy build barracks on Coronado Island that were clearly shaped like a Swastika? An "oversight" that would have been very easily visible to every architect, engineer, contractor, and inspector that reviewed the plans before during and after construction.

WORDS LIE, ACTIONS DON'T

i cant see them doing anything without someone from the inside working on it too. Perhaps they were threatening us to do there bidding in the middle east. Or maybe..just maybe 9-11 was a multi national corporations/false religions doing. And a giant excuse to do some more robber baroning