Major component of evolution theory proven wrong, page 1
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Topic started on 16-5-2008 @ 12:54 PM by Hollywood11
Video about cells and what scientists used to think about the past
www.youtube.com...

It would seem these days that they are still teaching people in schools that they have "plant" DNA and "bacteria" DNA in them. As evidence for this claim, the textbooks claim people have cells in them which were "swallowed" by other cells at some point in the past. They claim this is because we were at one time more like plants, and even before that point we were more like bacteria than humans. They say in the past that a plant cell "swallowed" the bacteria cell, or that one bacteria cell swallowed another bacteria cell, and that led to evolution or is somehow a mechanism that would make macro-evolution possible. They claim the plant cells or Eukaryotes somehow directly came out of bacteria cells or Prokaryotes. They call this the "endosymbiosis" components of the theory of evolution.

Well, this was all proven as nonsense back in 2003 when for the first time in history, scientists found a free-floating organelle inside a primitive cell.

Sorry, you don't have "plant" DNA in you. Just because plants came later than bacteria doesn't mean plants came directly out of bacteria, or that plants were created by bacteria cells swallowing each other. In fact, if this actually did ever occur, the swallowed cell would be instantly destroyed.

Scientists have found an organelle - an enclosed free-floating specialised structure - inside a primitive cell for the first time
New discovery contradicts theory of evolution.
news.bbc.co.uk...


Finding a self-contained organelle inside a prokaryote is a puzzle as it suggests that the evolution of cells - the basic building blocks of higher organisms - may have to be reconsidered.




and-
photo.minghui.org...

Oh #, a major evolutionary theory down the toilet!


The Endosymbiosis Hypothesis and Its Invalidity. The new discoveries throw doubt on the idea it could ever be possible
www.darwinismrefuted.com...

So do you still belive your great great grandfather was a bacteria flagellum?

[edit on 16-5-2008 by Hollywood11]


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 04:57 PM by R-evolve
Originally posted by dervishmadwhirler
You have to remember that Darwinists are answering to random mutations and not to structured evolutionary impulses.
To an evolution-theorist (dam that felt good) nature works with random changes and nature is not a logical succession of interactions and reactions to actions, so, ofcourse, they just defend their religion. Zealots always do.
The problem with Darwinists is that they fail to see the obvious, because they always expect you to be a creationist. Which ofcourse is nonsense and the same mistake Christians or creationists make when you say you do not believe in creation.
Perhaps some day, there will be enough people who understand that it is not a battle between illogical theories, but rather an attempt to open the doors to a greater understanding that works best when we will all work together.
But hey, they probably do not want to have greater understanding; they have at least found a group with whom they belong...and that is for most people the thing they are looking for.
Others on the other hand keep searching and sharing, we have found our group long ago; we are humans innit?

[edit on 16-5-2008 by dervishmadwhirler]


have you your own theory. i dont consider myself a Darwinist or whatever but i suppose i probably am. I believe the theory of evolution to be correct its not an intelligent force bending and shaping things to its will ultimately leading to better and more developed species, its just species surviving and those who manage it pass on their DNA and those who dont cant. A simple and stunning theory and one i havent found the need to question yet but i come on sites like this looking for the questions i wouldnt think of asking . what do you believe, im curious


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 06:15 PM by dervishmadwhirler
reply to post by R-evolve


I do not believe in a guided and planned creation by a whatever superior being.
I also dont belive in random mutation, like Darwinists.
I believe that in nature, evolution is a constant tweaking of interrelations.
No random mutation, for that is rather naive to believe, its like the creationists' story.
Life does not do too much randomness; everything is interconnected and therefor constantly tweaking the relationships. One thing always leads to another.
Mutations do not occur randomly.
And how it all precisely works is the work that we together are doing, living and trying to understand things by learning and observing. Not acting knowledgable and forgetting the biggest part of what we see.



reply posted on 23-9-2008 @ 07:47 PM by RuneSpider
reply to post by Hollywood11


Hollywood, since you've joined, on nearly every single thread I've seen you on you make posts that contradict most of known history, and expectations and evidence supporting theories about unknown history. You base these assertions on your own word.
Your word runs against the evidence, until you give some proof otherwise, it is you who is denying evidence, no matter what you think of Plato's story.
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