Soldier refuses to serve in Illegal Iraqi War , page 1
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Topic started on 16-5-2008 @ 10:19 AM by soulcrusha
Here we go, someone actually standing up for what they believe, no matter the repercussions.

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"My decision is based on my desire to no longer continue violating my core values to support an illegal and unconstitutional occupation... I refuse to participate in the Iraq occupation," he said, as a dozen veterans of the five-year-old Iraq war looked on.


Here is what we have all been saying for along time.


Officials take "hard facts and slice them into small pieces to make them presentable to the secretary of state or the president -- and all with the intent of furthering the occupation of Iraq," Goldsmith added.


Doesn't look like he is going to run either.



But while many seek refuge in Canada, the young soldier vowed to stay in the United States to fight "whatever charges the army levels at me."



reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:52 AM by Hal9000
There have been many soldiers refusing to go to Iraq, the most well know was probably Lt. Watada, who's case is still pending. He was court-martialed, and it was declared a mis-trial, and is now pleading double jeopardy.

I think this is a good thing for this soldier to do, but I'm sure others will come by calling him a coward as they did before in this thread.

Army Officer Refuses To Go To War

I am more curious about this congressional hearing that he and the others testified in front of.

What's that all about?


reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 06:50 PM by yourrolemodel
reply to post by hinky


I've always wondered about the term "volunteer force".

"Didn't have a choice then. Don;t have a choice now."

Thanks for explaining it to me.


reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 09:09 PM by _Phoenix_
Originally posted by COOL HAND

Folks,
This is absolute garbage.
He is a quitter, plain and simple.

The legality of the war is not for him to decide. I cannot wait to see how his court martial goes. I feel sorry for the other people in his squad/platoon/company who are now going to have to carry more of a load because if this piece of crap.

Thank God the vast majority of the military realizes what is at stake and are out there every day doing their job so that you people can jump on your computers and criticize them from your behind your user names.


"Oh my! the soldiers are all away in another country, thank god they are there in iraq protecting us! thank god we can go on our computers because the soldiers are not in the country protecting us! Thank god they are in iraq, they don't know why, but what the hell at least they are in some sort of war, they must be heroes! I mean they are risking their lives! They must be some sort of hero, right? too bad they don't know what they are risking their lives for, oh well, no need to question it, just keep on creating chaos. Oh wait isn't a soldier supposed to serve and protect?" (my attempt at sarcasm lol)

Now tell me what the hell does a bunch of soldiers hanging around in iraq have to do with people being able to go on computers thousands of miles away.

So basically you believe in pathetic, unevolved, slave laws, instead of good morals, and free will?








[edit on 19-5-2008 by _Phoenix_]


reply posted on 19-5-2008 @ 09:32 PM by Electricneo
reply to post by USMC-oorah


On the contrary this soldier is the bravest of the brave.
He is a real man, a real warrior, not a sock puppet wimp
who doesn't question evil misleaders. I salute this great
soldier in the name of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson
and give him the highest award in the Milky Way Galaxy
-the Gold Star Nebula of Supreme Courage.

If a Nazi soldier refused to serve under Hitler then he is
now considered a great hero of moral courage.


Bush and Cheney pulled a coup de tat with the Supreme Court
picking the winner in 2000-that's unconstitutional-they lied
about weapons of mass destruction and invaded Iraq for oil-
that's not only unconstitutional it is treasonous.
More than 500,000 innocent civilians have been slaughtered for
no real reason except the greed of oil barons.

US soldiers are sworn to protect and defend the Constitution not
corporate oil barons.

You can't compare WWII battles with the war in Iraq.
WWII was a war where Japan and Germany attacked us.
Iraq did nothing, zero, zilch to us and this war will go down as an
illegal occupation. The US soldiers who do follow evil orders like Nazi
sock puppets are the cowards.

However attacking Al Quada and the Taliban in Afghanistan was justified since they attacked us.
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