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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:12 AM by budski
reply to post by kaspermartyrphantom



All I've been able to find so far are a few blogs - but I'm probably looking in the wrong place.

I'm using "traditional" search engines - do have any tips on other search methods, please?


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:20 AM by makeitso
Originally posted by gottago
The article raises a very good question: despite OBL's and AQ's interest in the Palestinians (assuming for the sake of argument that both he is alive and AQ exists), then why isn't there an active AQ presence in Gaza?



There is an
AQ affiliated group in Gaza. They call their group "The Army of the Nation". They have/had their own affiliated websites and forums.

almqdes.net... {Shut down due to non-compliance with the providers TOS}.
al-amanh.net...
www.al-ommh.net... {Shut down "for maintenance"}


Here
is where it published a letter announcing its presence and intentions.

Here is a quote from the announcment letter.

Letter nation (1):: The first step forward
This is our first start of a periodic communications consecutive God willing, to coincide with the announcement of the beginning of our work in Palestine under the pretext of (Army of the nation)

[...]
the message comes nation and the nation's army out of Palestine to emphasize that there are men who have contributed to develop a plan and strategy of global Jihad, and was involved earlier and current effort and the willingness of a future in the application of this plan and strategy, the Army and the nation in Jerusalem only one of the fruits of their work, and that the Army nation sacred house is only part of the practical application of the third phase of the plan and strategy Jihad Global

[...]
we must possess power and declaring war on the enemy and start consecutive strikes to force him to change his positions and retracting them, and force must have a framework, so our declaration of the birth of the International Islamic Front,



Here is it logo


"The Army of the Nation" is one of the groups claiming reponsibility for the Gaza sniper aimed for Public Security Minister Dichter, among other things.



Pictures of the shooting posted
with link to the video.


More references:
alweehdat.com...
www.breitbart.tv...
www.terrorism-info.org.il...



reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:27 AM by makeitso
Originally posted by budski
reply to
post by kaspermartyrphantom



All I've been able to find so far are a few blogs - but I'm probably looking in the wrong place.

I'm using "traditional" search engines - do have any tips on other search methods, please?




warintel11.wetpaint.com...


Clearinghouse.infovlad is probably the most common site to go to for english posts/translations.


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:27 AM by gottago
reply to post by makeitso



Well that's a pretty ragtag group if this is what is supposedly getting the supposedly living OBL in such a snit these days...

They almost shot a Gaza functionary. Keystone Kops.

Might it be that there is no real AQ presence in Gaza for the same reason that you don't pee in your own pool?


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:33 AM by makeitso
reply to post by gottago



I would suggest that a bit more reseach may be in order before jumping to conclusions. As you can see, I've taken the time to give you a good starting point to look into it.


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 12:22 PM by budski
reply to post by deltaboy



LOL deltaboy
Love the repeated use of OSAMA as a "subliminal" - very clever, starred.

It's just unfortunate that OSAMA was recruited, trained and armed by the CIA.

There's also the question of if he's even still alive...



[edit on 16/5/2008 by budski]


reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 01:23 PM by gottago
reply to post by makeitso



I think you've done an excellent post about the supposed AQ presence in Gaza, but the idea is absurd on its face.

There is no AQ presence in Gaza, and the simplist proof of this is that nothing of any import has ever happened there that has been linked to AQ.

If OBL (if he's alive) is so upset about the Palestinian situation, and supposedly has been since before 9/11, we'd have seen something happen there by now.

We haven't. One failed killing of some bureaucrat is hardly a reign of AQ-style terror.

I'm sorry but I've never heard of any news that AQ did anything in Gaza; and that right there shows they aren't there--because there is no news about them that sticks in the public mind. Because AQ is, if anything, a boogeyman to scare the west, and particularly the US, created and maintained by certain intelligence agencies, and has not (until now) been needed in Gaza.

Guess Mossad finds it opportune to put on the OBL sock puppet show right now. that's the more interesting question IMHO--why is AQ now officially in Gaza?



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