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Originally posted by Circle
I wonder if these aborigines are STILL in contact wwith the Rainbow Serpents? How do we go about asking them?
From the book :The Serpent Grail
Even the name Vatican bears the etymological imprint of the serpent: Vati = place; can = serpent.""Rome and especially the Vatican is littered with serpent imagery. Inside the Vatican statues and sculptures link the serpent to both the grail and the Ark of the Covenant.
It must be remembered that in the early centuries of our era the Mithra-cult was spread over the whole Western world. It has left many monuments of itself here in Britain. At Rome the worship was extremely popular, and it may almost be said to have been a matter of chance whether Mithraism should overwhelm Christianity, or whether the younger religion by adopting many of the rites of the older one should establish itself (as it did) in the face of the latter.Now we have already mentioned that in the Mithra cult the slaying of a Bull by the Sungod occupies the same sort of place as the slaying of the Lamb in the Christian cult.
This article is entitled Ancient Dinosaur Depictions. source The vase isn't very clear in this picture.
The February 26, 2000 issue of Science News contained an article that commenting on an artifact housed at the Boston Museum of Fine Arts that has come to be known as the Hesione vase (Hesman, 2000). Pictured on this ancient Greek vase is a series of somewhat unusual paintings, including one that portrays a monster that possesses the head of a dinosaur. This pottery was created around 550 B.C., and depicts the Greek hero Heracles rescuing Hesione from this "monster of Troy." Forced to concede the amazingly realistic dinosaurian depiction, Science News concluded that the paintings on this unusual vase simply prove that ancient people dug fossils, too.
"Man is a religious being, he will worship...Man by worshipping, becomes assimilated to the moral character of the object which he worships...
Without an exception, the character of every nation and tribe of the human history has been formed and modified, in a great degree, by the character attributed to their gods."
James B. Walker, "The Philosophy of the Plan of Salvation" (Minneapolis, Minnesota: Bethany 1886) pp. 26-28
The cult of the Apis bull started at the very beginning of Egyptian history, probably as a fertility god connected to grain and the herds. In a funerary context, the Apis was a protector of the deceased, and linked to the pharaoh. This animal was chosen because it symbolized the king’s courageous heart, great strength, virility, and fighting spirit. The Apis bull was considered to be a manifestation of the pharaoh, as bulls were symbols of strength and fertility, qualities which are closely linked with kingship ("strong bull of his mother Hathor" was a common title for gods and pharaohs).
Sometimes the Apis bull was pictured with her sun-disk between his horns, being one of few deities associated with her symbol. When the disk was depicted on his head with his horns below and the triangle on his forehead, an ankh was suggested. It also is a symbol closely associated with his mother. When The Apis bull is unique as he is the only Egyptian deity represented solely as an animal, and never as a human with an animal's head—perhaps, because from the earliest of Egyptian religious practices, they were animals sacrificed to the cow goddess and represented the resurrected, renewal of life (Hapy and later Osiris).
Apis was originally the Herald (wHm) of Ptah, the chief god in the area around Memphis. As a manifestation of Ptah, Apis also was considered to be a symbol of the pharaoh, embodying the qualities of kingship.
The bovines in the region in which Ptah was worshipped exhibited white patterning on their mainly black bodies, and so a belief grew up that the Apis bull had to have a certain set of markings suitable to its role. It was required to have a white triangle upon its forehead, a white vulture wing outline on its back, a scarab mark under its tongue, a white crescent moon shape on its right flank, and double hairs on its tail.
The bull which matched these markings was selected from the herd, brought to a temple, given a harem of cows, and worshipped as an aspect of Ptah. His mother was believed to have been conceived by a flash of lightning from the heavens, or from moonbeams, and also was treated specially. At the temple, Apis was used as an oracle, his movements being interpreted as prophecies. His breath was believed to cure disease, and his presence to bless those around with virility. He was given a window in the temple through which he could be seen, and on certain holidays was led through the streets of the city, bedecked with jewelry and flowers.
Originally posted by seagrass
The bull becomes the lamb and the serpent becomes satan. Genius.
Then the man prepared a healing drink from the snake's bladder and offered it to the audience for consumption. For quite a while there was no one wanting to get the local specialties: the snake blood drink, the healing drink and the snake soup. As the man only spoke in Mandarin, I could understand only things like colours and how much certain things cost but I think it was more than enough! Then I kept on thinking about trying this local delicacy: 'now or never'... 'now or never'... NOW!
Viprinex is an enzyme that is obtained from the snake venom. It reduces levels of fibrinogen, a sticky coagulant in the blood that is the main protein involved in clotting. The venom of the Malayan pit viper, a snake with long fangs, causes extensive bleeding.
It is believed that Viprinex improves blood flow to the brain in three different ways:
It reduces fibrinogen levels, which inhibits growth of the clot. It reduces the thickness of blood, allowing it to flow more easily to blood-deprived areas of the brain. It activates the body's natural clot-dissolving ability, which may help restore blood flow.
"This stuff is potent," said Warren Wasiewski, a neurologist and vice president and chief medical officer with Neurobiological Technologies, the California company that is funding the clinical trial of Viprinex.
The indigenous people of Western Amazonia say that their remarkable botanical knowledge comes directly from the plants themselves – a shaman, by drinking an hallucinogenic brew, can converse with the “animate essences”, or spirits which are present in all living beings and which are sources of verifiable information that has stunning correspondences with molecular biology.Both shaman and molecular biologists agree that there is a hidden unity under the surface of life’s diversity; both associate this unity with the double helix shape (or two entwined serpents, a twisted ladder, a spiral staircase, two vines). In shamanic traditions around the world, it is said that knowledge is acquired by reaching, in one’s visions, the axis mundi – the axis of the world – shaped in these entwined configurations. These are also the symbols which biologists use to describe the shape of the DNA molecule. Ironically, from a rational point of view, it is by definition impossible for hallucinations to be the source of true knowledge, and to consider them as such is the very definition of psychosis.
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Originally posted by Skyfloating
Originally posted by seagrass
The bull becomes the lamb and the serpent becomes satan. Genius.
Where do you pick up all this stuff?
Thanks for making this thread top quality, along with KTK, wang te, interestedalways.
If this thread were a book it would sell like crazy.
All throughout the history of the Roman Catholic church the popes have worn the tri-level tiara of the ancient solar cult of Babylon. They do so as an open declaration of their desire to be the god of earth, heaven, and hell.
from the Secret Societies Thread on ATS here
There are 33 vertabrae in the spine, the ladder of consciousness. I always thought that's where they (babylonian luminary schools) first construed the number from. I do believe there are 3 formal steps of Freemasonry, followed by titles an individual can choose to achieve by partaking in whatever action they involve.
6 is the biblical number of man. Man and his devices = Free Masons, men free to create their realities. The sun, is the bearer of light. If there were no sun our eyes would recieve no light. If we can't see we are blind, we cannot discern, we cannot find truth. The symbolisms od 6 and the sun do tie into freemasonry.
Hi, amazing thread isn't it? I am not familiar with the story of the Rainbow Serpent in Aboriginal "mythology", and so I am not sure of how big it is, and such, but I don't believe this thread has ever stated it is of the same significance as the biblical or more contemporary versions of the snake. My impression is that the biblical snake is a watered down, altered, twisted version of a very very ancient theme. From talking rainbow serpents, to snake goddesses, to talking evil snakes. It has an evolution though our history. I believe we are focused on finding how this ancient wisdom was lost or altered in the western world, while seeming to be intact in the Aboriginal world. How it relates to sky spirits or ancient astronauts is significant because they are one of the oldest surviving cultures which claims to have seen and spoke with them. For thousands of years and into the present day.
Firstly because I don't really agree with the snake being a theme, at least not in the way that the rainbow serpent is.The rainbow serpent AFAIK was huge and there was only one, but in the other things you mention (eg. the bible) it's just a normal snake and it's almost a side character. It doesn't have anywhere near as much significance as in the Aboriginal mythologies... I can't speak too much for the values of other areas, but I think more research is needed into that aspect to confirm or deny the similarities.