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they r faithfull to the book as they r very willing to change it when desired..
"...they could not come nigh unto him for the press..."
...being unable to get to him because of the crowd...
...what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness...
...what sort of people ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness...
For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.
Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way the men also abandonned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.
For this reason God gave them up to degrading passions. Their women exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural, and in the same way also the men, giving up natural intercourse with women, were consumed with passion for one another. Men committed shameless acts with men and received in their own persons the due penalty for their error.
Originally posted by FalknFerno
reply to post by Neo Christian Mystic
You have to remember, man has put only what they wanted in the bible for their own purposes. Who really knows what the bible should really say. Even on the history channel has a thing about it, pretty good. Even in history class has taught us that, well my generation. The pope and some bishops way back then. Every so often new versions come out, but back then, it was changed and changed over again, trying to translate it, and purposely changing some to make some stories sound more herioc, but no biggie there, but some other things are left out for purposes of their own, but in general, it really doesn't matter for the most part. Humanity knows what is right and what is wrong, common logic and sense. But even common sense people don't have, why? who knows. But it does seem like, this is the only planet in the universe that has free will, like this place was a testing ground in the beginning, no matter who created us, that was a big mistake, very common logic to the basic. Maybe that's when God figured out what love was maybe, kind of? All these aliens are there, just watching us for the most part. The area 51 thing might exist, or something like that maybe? I don't care if that's true or not, it really doesn't matter in the end. Soon we will know the truth, as we know the truths of many things, whether we deny it or not, just to make us feel better. Revelations speaks quite clear to us how the end shall be. Just read it again, I have many many times, and do lots of research on it, as many other things. Knowledge will be the power that will remain after all this crap blows over. Instead of all this other crap that people think gives them power. Anyways, there shall be rumors of a great war, Jerusalem will be basically be pointed with weapons from all sides. There are many other signs that tells us how the end of a new beginning shall be. Yet we still don't pay attention to it. But sorry if I went off subject at spots, but as a homosexual, they don't see it like that, because they feel like they it's not. Homosexuals even change their sex, depending on their hormone and testosterone levels. Humanity is shown many many different genetic defects, why? Figure that on your own is all i got to say. Too much to talk about that. But, for one, we are needed to show our imperfections. I know that they won't be condemned, but we were not created that way. We were created man for woman, for the soul purpose of growing. Homosexuality has been around a long, long time, thousands of years, but I know some time before christ, but not too far back.
All I know is, there is a God that created all this in space, but can he or it be on top of everything at once as people think. In a sense, yes, but still takes time I'm sure, why there are these messengers, we call angels. God used to hang out with humanity for awhile until things got too crazy, then he assigned his angels to take care of things in a sense, but they still have to ask permission. Yet why are we being watched all the time by all these aliens, who knows for sure. Maybe humans were created genetically, then God steps in as God finds out. I have several theories, not just one. Yet I do know there is a God, and aliens. I'm sure God created many many types of beings, and these aliens I'm sure know more about God than we do. It's all dogma, really hard for me to try to imagine what God really is and like, who can. And what is what with the aliens. All I know, soon we will find out, and I can't wait.
P.S, sorry for all this other stuff
homosexuals as the sin and not adultery.. which homosexuality has been so ungracously dumped into that catagory which is about cheating not not homosexuality.. which the problem the church has is that if gay marriage is allowed people will question their authority..
u'r still talking about how the people were cheating on their spouse. and i'm talking about adding words that are obviously misrepresnetaions of the contex..i.e homosexuals as the sin and not adultery..
scholors r questiong the contex in which it was written, the point of view of the writer at the time and a host of other reasons..besides that should be a clue as tohow long ago this was started remember the church decided waht was to be in the current bible.. and regaurdless of supposed divine right.[sic] they were human and suject to misinterpretation and mistakes..
...Christianity is notoriously political and often with agenda.
I think that when tackling the bible, one should consider the quality of the translation... Because of this, it's extremely unlikely that the bible you're reading is the one that was first published.
lets not forgett revelations.. i believe it says in there..[cant think of the particular scripture off hand] that man shall lay with man without shame..