reply to post by Gatordone

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Yep, I was wrong, about him talking specifically about democrats apeasing to Nazi's, but that doesn't negate the rest of my post, now does it?

btw.. What misguided hatred of U.S. citizens are you talking about?

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Bush was talking about Obama and his promise to "talk to Iran" as an act of diplomacy. And Bush would rather bomb people he disagrees with than be diplomatic.

Part of the job of a president is to practice diplomacy with other countries, especially the countries we disagree with. Talking with "friendly" countries and bombing unfriendly ones isn't diplomacy, that's insanity. Bush is freaking insane.

Hope that clears things up for you, wutone.

Bush is such an idiot, attrating more wars, call ur own self 'Nazi'.Dun call other ppl.

Hardly, and I can't believe you are gonna make me defend the president......

What you have shown me is the media trying to whip up a political frenzy and Obama getting defensive a little too soon.

I want to know, in George Bush's actual speech, where he mentions Barack Obama or any other elected democrat for that matter. "Some" does not equal "Obama" unless Obama and co. defines it that way.

And look who is defining it that way. It's Obama, the democrats, and the media.

Just because (insert politician) says it is so doesn't mean it is.

Just because the media says it is so, doesn't mean it is.

It looks to me that anything that has a remote chance of being critical of Obama, or can be re-interpreted as such, draws a ton of blind anger from Obama supporters.

And why would Obama and his supporters be angry in the first place? IF George Bush somehow meant his speech to target Obama, why should Obama take offense as being portrayed as someone to sit down and talk? I thought Obama was the man of change? Doesn't "change" mean a split from the old ways of international politics as well? Doesn't "change" mean that we should engage in diplomacy and leave war completely off the table until there is evidence without a doubt of an imminent threat?

I think Obama took offense because what George Bush said, whether it was about him or not, is being interpreted as a threat to Obama's ambition to the presidency.

Obama jumped the gun with taking "offense". The democrats jumped the gun. If something happens between Iran and the U.S. between now and the election, we will see exactly how big of a trap that the democrats got themselves into. This reaction, on part of the democrats, is the biggest gift to those that want war with Iran short of Iran actually attacking, lets see if they take advantage.

Additionally, Obama's attitude on this whole issue scares me. He is acting like a little child. Obama's followers are in an almost cult like adoration for him. They are practically writing songs and music videos for him. There are media pictures of Obama with halo's around his head and the such. This kind of fanfare reminds me more of what would surround Kim Jong Il rather than a democrat frontrunner. The response Obama made to George Bush's "attack" is telling, no screaming, that the Obamamania movement is really starting to get to Barack Obama's head.

"Get it through your head - we're not "anti-American"...
We love America, it's you we hate.
And we hate you because of what you're doing to America. "

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"It's not America we hate...
We just hate you. "

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reply to post by acegotflows

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That is the exact same thought I had?

After the number of ATS threads dedicated to the repeating history of 1930 Germany i.e Terrorist attacks on symbolic buildings - Homelad patriot act

Seems ironic he would call out the other party as Nazi appeasers.

reply to post by Gatordone

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Don't worry about that. We have noticed that already and are on it.

I thought you were talking about me personally. As for the low blow. Don't push it.

Wutone sure makes sense. Why on Earth put this one man to such great heights? He has done nothing to earn anything remotely close to even be considered "great".

Change? What change? Talk and more talk. Circumventing the real issues, not addressing National Security and talking down to many.

A spoiled arrogant pompus azz who thinks he is owed a Presidency, and in a nation he disrespects the most of all things.

This guy has no business at all being President of the US. Keyna, go ahead, but not here.

The main reason Obama does not deserve to have the presidency, is the same reason McCain or Clinton do not deserve it. They are connected to the international bankers, which we have posted about on this site numerous times. Not because he's black, not because he's democrat, but because he's affiliated with the CFR and has the backing of the founder of the Trilateral commission. Yes, he's NWO (Brzezinski, Rockefeller) just like Bush (Kissinger, Rockefeller), Clinton (Clinton, Rothschild), McCain (Kissinger, Rockefeller) etc...

I'm not going to inject my self into the, ehem, "debate" at hand. I will comment , however, that for posterity's sake that this thread should be remembered by everyone who has participated, and--especially for the devout ATS'ers--be looked upon as a snapshot of the shameful reality that even the 'most enlightened group of non-sheeple on the internet' are not above the basest verbal assaults and the pettiest of name calling. This thread should be stickied as an example for how not to carry on a political debate. I can hardly believe I read the whole thing.

reply to post by Gatordone

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Well, considering I am an American, I think you're missing the point.

I hate the people that are destroying my country, and making a mockery of everything it's supposed to stand for.

They are my enemies - not some impoverished helpless goat herders on the other side of the planet.

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How can Bush ever critizied Obamas foriegn policy when his foregin policy is if you disagree with us we wont talk to you or acknowledge you but we will make things up to start a war with your country. I don't no about you all out thier but if i have a probaly with somebody i'm going to go talk to that person not go and kill them!!! Everything Bush saids just make me sick honestly!! Bush compared talking to are enemies which every preisdent has done in the history of the untied states except for him to Neville Chamberlain giving the nazis a counrty (Czechoslovakia)!! I't obvious to me that Bush didnt' now what the defintion for appeasement was. also he did this in Isreal when they were celebrating the countrys 60th birthday????? God bless us all!!!!!

LOLwut?
Did bush just make a funny?

The Nazi appeasers were Them!

The Bush family were the ones who donated the money for Hitlers regime.
Infact Prescott Bush, set up all the American Neo-Nazi' Investors. (Rockefeller)
Bushes Neo Nazi Grandfather (Prescott)


Appeasers?

The Bushes were so Nazi that they created a nazi organization, here on U.S. Soil.
Skull and Bones - Nazi Connection.


This is a picture of Musolini next to a man named Karl Wolff, who remarkably looks like George Bush.

Now we know why bush is being such a nazi.
And why the New World Order is looking more, and more, like a nazi death camp.

"And Now We Have You."-COPYPASTA

nothing like keeping the illusion of the right left paradime going .

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I hope Obama gets in and I hope bush goes and hides in his homeland he bought in Paraguay.
Or prison for all the lies and deceit he has led us Australians to war
through our hopeless Prime Minister being his lttle puppy dog namely john howard another racist PIG!

AA