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Topic started on 15-5-2008 @ 01:37 AM by RamboGoneWild
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Why do you think so many mass-murderers (such as some of the most infamous Nazis/Zionists) have changed their names?
blogs.albawaba.com...
The Bizarre Story Of An Austrian named Hitler, Grandson of Baron
Rothschild, and other "name changers"
 Hitler was the illegitimate son of Baron Rothschild. SCHICKELGRUBER BECOMES HIEDLER
BECOMES HITLER.
Here are some other name changes: 'They' like to hide their real names so they can 'hide' themselves amongst the people they intend to infiltrate,
subvert, hijack, exploit, enslave, terrorize, and ultimately, destroy. Yes, am talking about...
• The House of Bauer (Saxe-Coburg-Gotha changed its name to the House of Windsor) at the start of WW1The Duke of Edinburgh (Lord Mountbatten)
changed his name from Battenburg.
• Gorbachov changed his name from Orbach-Korbach
• Stalin changed his name from Iosiph David Vissarionovich Djugashvili-Kochba
• The Bush family changed their name from Bosch
• Hitler came from Hiedler from SCHICKELGRUBER and connected to Rothschild
• J.P. Morgan changed his name from Morgantaler
• Rockefeller changed his name from Rogdenfelder
• Hillary Rotham Clinton changed her name from Rodenhurst
• John Kerry's father changed his name from Fritz Kohn
• Rothschild changed his name from Bauer
• Mark Rich who was pardonned by Clinton changed his name from Reich
• Christian Rakovsky changed his name from Chaim Rakover
• Clinton changed his name from Winthrop Rockefeller Jr
• Lenin's name was changed from Moishe Blank
• Perry changed his name from Pereira-Perez
• Madeleine Albright changed her name from ......
Every ever operating national communist party in the world has been lead by Zionists, from 1900 to the 60's. Leon Trotsky (Lev Bornstein, Zinoview
Hirsch Apfelbaum), Kamreov (Rosenfeld). Outside of Russia Aptecker, Goldman, Kun, Luxenbourg. Of the quasi cabinet of the USSR 1917 all 24 were
Zionists, all had changed their names. The Soviet Central Committee in 1935 onsisted of 56 Zionists and three Christians married to Zionists every one
of them had changed their names to hide their Jewish ancestry.
Principal American pornography producers are: Braterman, Bone, Fischbein, Freiberg, Fine, Weinstein, Freelander, Holander, Gottesman, Hirsh, Apostein,
Ornstein, Rothstein, Sturman, Tanner, Weston, one wonders if they have meetings at the Hollywood Synagogue?
You get the picture.
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 02:54 AM by MidnightDStroyer
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Well, after looking over some references on Project Paperclip, it should become obvious why
so many names were changed after WW II. For one thing, the Nuremburg Trials were only a media circus, so that the US could let these @$$wipes just
continue with "business as usual."
The only differences were that they'd have the US government as bosses & they were given the opportunity to re-establish the Third Reich in
America...Does there seem to be a lot of "coincidence" that the US government has been following the same path as Hitler took to gain power in
Germany?
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 06:47 AM by andre18
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 The Soviet Central Committee in 1935 onsisted of 56 Zionists and three Christians married to Zionists every one of them had changed their names
to hide their Jewish ancestry.
On November 30th 2000, Rothschild got married in London to a wealthy Zionist business woman named Lynn Forrester.
 John Kerry's father changed his name from Fritz Kohn
The Forbes part of John Kerry identifies his descendancy from Captain Robert Bennett Forbes, who was a drug runner for the Rothschild’s opium drug
trade with china in the eighteen hundreds.
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 07:33 AM by ZeroKnowledge
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Oh what a thread!!! Zionists are both Nazis and Communists.... At least think if such a chimera is possible before drawing any conclusions. I think
that if people will try hard enough they will find that Zionists were also part of Inquisition - after all Torqwemada is supposed to have name changed
too.
As for minor details named facts -
Stalin changed his name from Iosiph David Vissarionovich Djugashvili-Kochba

Koba was nickname that he used in political/criminal activity. He took it from novel , it is Georgian Robin Hood analog. But if it sounds Jewish - why
not add it to the pile.
Lenin's name was changed from Moishe Blank

Lenin was changed from Ulyanov. If his Grandfather on MOTHER side was Blank - how it means that Lenin should be Blank? In Russia as in majority of the
globe father family name is given. But as long as it can be used to stir certain response - everything goes.
Since i simply do not know about the rest of fine examples of human intellect - i guess it probably is the same rubbish.
Trotsky - Zionist. Great Joke. Communism stated that different nationalities should not exist. Zionism is national movement.
I wonder why this "zionist" that did change name from Bronstein is not mentioned? Maybe because he DID change names? So compilers of this info did
not enter him due to it being ,God forbid, truth.
And why none of this Communist Zionists ended up in Israel? Or Palestine at that time....
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 10:05 AM by RamboGoneWild
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Wake up. All of the infamous Zionists are Nazis.
Jim Condit - The Final Solution to Adolf Hitler (Adolph Hitler)
 Interesting points from Jim Condit, Jr.'s film "The Final Solution to Adolf Hitler: Zionist Collaboration with the Nazis"
 "The Zionists brought us to the Holocaust. It is well known that it was possible to redeem Jews from the Nazis with money, and save many hundreds
of thousands of Jews in Hungary...THE ZIONIST LEADERS WHO NOW SIT IN GOVERNMENT PREVENTED IT!" -- Rabbi Shlomo Zalman Ehrenreich (circa 1954) To the
billions of people around the world who know only the standard Establishment version of 20th Century history, the above quotation is incomprehensible,
its implications impossible to fathom. Adolf Hitler and the Nazis were the sworn enemies of all Jews, they will say, and to suggest there could be any
collusion between Zionists and Hitler's Third Reich is both beyond belief and a slap at the memory of those who died at the hands of Nazi
persecutors. Incomprehensible, perhaps, but by no means impossible. The Zionist-Nazi collaboration, however suppressed it has been to the general
public, is a little-known, but crucial, part of European history, one that continues to profoundly shape and affect world events in the 21st Century.
This mind-boggling voyage is but one of many facts which have been compiled and collated, and which is presented in this DVD by Jim Condit Jr. in this
fascinating new DVD entitled The Final Solution to Adolf Hitler. This thorough analysis examines Hitler's career and influence, from his humble
beginning in Austria to his appointment as German Chancellor by President Paul von Hindenburg, from his ascent to absolute dictator of the Third Reich
to his role in bringing about the modern state of Israel and the emerging world government.]Jim Condit - The Final Solution to Adolf Hitler (Adolph
Hitler)
Hitler & the Zionists part 1 of 2
Hitler & the Zionists part 2 of 2
Zionist Founder Theodore Herzl was a German Fascist Nazi
This shows how Zionists Invaded deep into our Government
 New video showing how Zionists Invaded deep into US Government.
Speak against Zionist Attrocities on Palestinians. See the Zionist control of American politicians.
911 Was a Zionist Job 01 of 02
911 Was a Zionist Job 02 of 02
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 02:00 PM by MidnightDStroyer
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Let's not forget that the Khazarian Zionists are not Jews...They wanted to misdirect blame for the "Jewish Conspiracy" away from themselves & have
been quite successful in doing so. Just consider how many different nations have mistakenly persecuted the Jews (the real Jewish heritage descended
from Semite stock) in history. The current general population of Isreal is Jewish (practicing Judaism), but the ruling powers are Khazarian
(Jesuits). BTW, the so-called "Cardinal" advisor in the US government is also Khazarian, not a true Jew.
This Khazarian (simplified) "chain of command" passes through the Catholic Church in the Vatican & Knights of Malta all the way to the Superior
General of the Jesuits, also known as the Black Pope. If any single person in the world
would most aptly fit the title of "Anti-Christ," it would be him.
Granted, this info has only one source (after all, how many people would be willing & able to reveal that much  ), but everything at this link
logically fits into a cohesive whole.
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 02:33 PM by ZeroKnowledge
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You are aware that you are wrong, now don't you? Jew is also person converted to Judaism. He/she are no longer refered as converts but are considered
full members of Jewish society. Of course xenophobia plays its role here too but at least the definition is as i mentioned.
King David is grandson of converted women for example.
And how can you differentiate between "khazarian" Jew to "other" Jew?
Also...Jesuits. I must congratulate you -THIS i see for the first time. So:
Can you pinpoint on the map where Khazaria was? Then try to measure distance to Italy. Khazar Kaganate fell in 965 AD. Jesuits appeared in 1534. It
took 600 years to those "false" Jews to reach Italy? And i am puzzled why you have to "wait" 1534 years to declare that Jews infiltrated Vatican.
Most early Christian were Jews - start from there.
If one would think logically he would really see how it fits ... like a glove. But as always facts are minor problem. So lets overlook them.
If you are really interested - you can check modern genetic researches concerning different genetic markers and what can be learned about Jews of
"different" origin. But since it will not fit too into your theory - why mention those facts .....
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reply posted on 15-5-2008 @ 11:25 PM by MidnightDStroyer
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
Jew is also person converted to Judaism. He/she are no longer refered as converts but are considered full members of Jewish society. 
It sounds like you're making same mistake that many other people make: Jews are of Semite (the region of Mesopotamia) ancestry & is a matter of
racial stock...Judaism is a religious system of belief, not related to ancestry. Anyone can convert to Judaism religion, but no one can convert
to Jewish ancestry.
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
And how can you differentiate between "khazarian" Jew to "other" Jew? 
The Khazars do not originate from Semite stock...The nomadic steppe Khazars originate from
Turko/Mongolic ancestry. The Khazars "adopted" the name of "Jew" in order to deflect suspicion towards the much-more-numerous Judaist Jews.
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledgeCan you pinpoint on the map where Khazaria was? 
Khazarian Historic Maps
Originally posted by ZeroKnowledgeAnd i am puzzled why you have to "wait" 1534 years to declare that Jews infiltrated Vatican. Most
early Christian were Jews - start from there. 
Before the time of Jesus there were already several subsets of Judaism developing, basically breaking away from mainstream Judaism in much the same
way as the more modern Reformation of the Catholic Church happened, creating the Protestant religions.
In the book, " The Mystery and Meaning of the Dead Sea Scrolls" by Hershel Shanks (the book can also
be found at Amazon.com) relates how, if Jesus actually existed, probably visited & studied at Wadi Qumran during his time "wandering the
desert"...Which is where most of the Dead Sea Scrolls were stored & studied before social upheaval forced them to be hidden in various places around
the Dead Sea. The Dead Sea Scrolls taught mostly one subset version of Judaism that most closely resembled Essen-Judaism (described in the book as
"essen-oid," as it had some differences significant enough to "reclassify" it)...That's the most likely origin of modern Christianity.
Yes, I do have my own personal history library at home, limited though it is...And mostly focusing on Egypt.
Jesuits were originally founded by St. Ignatus Loyola, I think sometime during the 15th
Century...But it's the Khazars that dominate the Jesuits now. As a religious sect that wasn't very large during the time period, it takes time to
slowly & stealthily build up position & influence within the Catholic hierarchy. I'm not exaclty certain when the Khazars actually
adopted the Protocols of Zion though.
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 03:13 AM by q_ball
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Lucky I didnt see Lettermans name there. I Couldnt live with out the late show..
On a serious note, this doesnt surprise me. More corruption, using religion to cover it.
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 03:40 AM by Herbal Oli
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Zionists and Nazis are one and the same.
Holocaust + 9/11 were both inside jobs, self-sabotage
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 05:29 AM by ZeroKnowledge
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OK. Jew is a person who:
Is born to Jewish mother.
Is converted to Judaism.
This is how it is defined by Jews them self and trying to convince them (me including) that it is wrong is weird. I am not defining who is Slavic,
Aryan or whatever. This is up to people of those races to define. Not to mention that even if someone will try to find a "clear" race for some weird
reason - it is impossible in modern world because genetically all people are different. There are common genetic markers that are used to help define
history of any ethnic group but it is still defined by people which markers are of which group and people could be wrong.
There is no such thing as "clear" Jewish race because converts were almost from the start. You can see from the bible that in exodus from Egypt
there were not only Jews but a multitude of other nationalities too. In the history of Jewish kingdoms the were conversions too (and some in
crusade-style) . In the time of Roman empire at some point almost ten percent of its population were Jewish - due to massive conversion trend. Khazar
Kaganate is not the only country during the history to convert to Judaism. Why it is such a big deal then? So far i saw no proof but general
declarations without any facts and explanations. Why would those evil Khazars mask them self as Jews for so long (unless it is because they consider
themself Jews)? Why would they infiltrate Vatican if they mask/consider themself as Jews?
I can suggest you a new,upgraded theory:
Khazar Kaganate were really reptilians masking as people, and so took Judaism and secretly assassinated all real Jews. Then they planned (in famous
Protocols of Reptilians it is all written ) to take over Christianity in the same manner - to take form of real Christians - the Jesuits - and rule
other the world. Failing to do so due to Reformism movements they slitted to two groups - one creating NWO, the other bringing planet X to
crash/invade Earth.
Wow. I am amazed at my work. So many facts ,time and sweat invested.... About two minutes. And look at that theory. Brilliant.
To all the people who want to use it - it is copyrighted by me!!!! I now can wright books, publish rubbish at Internet sites and ctr. And then of
course - take over the world!!!!!
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 11:55 AM by MidnightDStroyer
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At least I provided some sources to go along with my own general historical research...Where's the sources that led you to formulate your
theory?
BTW, your theory can't be copyrighted because it's not all that original...
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 01:27 PM by ZeroKnowledge
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I am a little depressed because i just deleted my own huge post. And that dreams of fame and fortune with the copyright issue are gone.
So i will try to rewrite:
I consider that in order to turn assumption that Khazars are Jesuits into theory needs names of Jews (since it is impossible to know what origin they
were - Eastern European is preferable) who held big positions in Jesuit group. And btw, your source also states that Jesuits appeared in 16th, not 15n
century. Right now it is just an assumption with the same hold on the ground as mine (or not mine as it turned out :lol  .
If you would like to check a real research:
www.nature.com...
Since R-M17 haplogroup is also found at moderate to high frequencies in Central Asia20 and southern Russia/Ukraine,5 this haplogroup could have been
present in the Khazars. However, if the R-M17 chromosomes in Ashkenazi Jews do indeed represent the vestiges of the mysterious Khazars then, according
to our data, this contribution was limited to either a single founder or a few closely related men, and does not exceed 12% of the present-day
Ashkenazim.

And another logical bump in your assumption - Roman empire extended to Britain,France ,Germany, Spain, Balkans and even Italy  .
Jews of certainly non-Khazar origin (no Khazars yet) lived in all parts of that empire including those mentioned above. And yet it is not taken into
account?
www.fordham.edu...
You can see that laws concerning Jews existed in Europe much before Khazar Kaganate. Thus Jews existed in Europe before Khazar Kaganate.
Just to clarify myself - i do not think that Jew of Khazarian origin is worse/better then Jew of any other origin. Or human being of any other origin.
I just can see how this unbased assumption could be used for political/racial issues.
Now i have to remember -ctrl c!!!
Edit:
Almost forgot!!
As for Jesuits and their plans i cannot add much - ZeroKnowledge factor. But if it is a real power player in the big politics - it is definetly not
the only one.
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reply posted on 16-5-2008 @ 01:41 PM by MidnightDStroyer
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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
Just to clarify myself - i do not think that Jew of Khazarian origin is worse/better then Jew of any other origin. Or human being of any other
origin. 
I agree...I never really wanted to delve so deeply into ancestrial origins except merely to point out that, in times as ancient as Mesopotamia, there
was very little genetic diversity within geopolitical regions.
The most important point I was making is that the original Hebrew version of Judaism are distinctly different from the Jesuits who have falsely
claimed Jewish ancestry & social/religious practices...Which goes hand-in-hand with the fact that they did so to misdirect inevitable hostilities
towards "different Jews." How many times in history have various European governments & the Church condemned Jesuits in particular (& Jews in
general), even when the bulk of the Judaism Jews had nothing to do with the social/political manipulations that were started by the Jesuit Jews?
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