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Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door shall be opened.
True wisdom is less presuming than folly. The wise man doubteth often, and changeth his mind; the fool is obstinate, and doubteth not; he knoweth all things but his own ignorance
He said that there was one only good, namely, knowledge; and one only evil, namely, ignorance
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
I'd eat you alive. I'll allow you to abscond with some dignity. I don't prefer to embarass others in public, they always do it to theirselves.
One entity, such as a Human being, ceases to be alive at its death. There are no souls. Stop your rubbish.
Put up or shut up.
If you have the elucid evidence of souls, then show us. Until then you are nothing but a liar and a confused being searching desperately for hands to grab onto your own delusions.
Einstein's protege`, David Bohm, formulated his holographic universe theory at the same time that the neurophysiologist Karl Pribram form the holonomic theory
www.nderf.org... "The experiment of Aspect, based on Bell’s theorem, has established non-locality in quantum mechanics (non-local interconnectedness). Non-locality happens because all events are interrelated and influence each other; Roger Penrose, a quantum physicist, argues that Algorithmic computations cannot simulate mathematical reasoning. The brain, as a closed system capable of internal and consistent computations, is insufficient to elicit human consciousness. Penrose offers a quantum mechanical hypothesis to explain the relation between consciousness and the brain. And Simon Berkovitch, a professor in Computer Science of the George Washington University, has calculated that the brain has an absolutely inadequate capacity to produce and store all the informational processes of all our memories with associative thoughts. We would need 1024 operations per second, which is absolutely impossible for our neurons.37 Herms Romijn, a Dutch neurobiologist, comes to the same conclusion.30 One should conclude that the brain has not enough computing capacity to store all the memories with associative thoughts from one’s life, has not enough retrieval abilities, and seems not to be able to elicit consciousness. Herms Romijn argues that the continuously changing electromagnetic fields of the neuronal networks, which can be considered as a biological quantum coherence phenomenon, possibly could be the elementary “carriers” of consciousness.
Nobel prize winning physicist Brian Josephson is working on consciousness research. There are some very intelligent and well-educated people who suspect the continuation of post-death consciousness (i.e., the 'soul') based on empirical research. Retired physics/material science professor William Tiller has done research in this field for many years. There is a list, though not all-inclusive, of scientists who have done and/or are doing research in this area at www.victorzammit.com...
twm.co.nz... Bohm is not the only researcher who has found evidence that the universe is a hologram. Working independently in the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality. Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are dispersed throughout the brain.
Originally posted by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal
reply to post by carole9999
I am stating that no "soul" has been proven and never will be. When I die, I am dead.
Sure if all planets populated with intelligent species take their course to eventually understanding the eternally static laws of the universe there will always be a Being on every planet that possibly resembles Beings on other planets that played similar roles in advancement. This does not mean that they are a re-incarnated individual soul, rather they are the incarnation or reception of eternal universal knowledge that is readily available for anyone that wishes to pay attention to nature and the way it always has been and always will be; there IS structure, this strcture is unflailing. This is because we are re-membering the universe because we have not yet learned it, as a result of our evolutiuon and inception as Human Beings on this planet we call Earth, our energy forms took on this life source and this material form because it was the only way that it can be as an amalgam of all universal forces and laws acting together to hold us in place gravitationally, intellectually, bodily and etc. Why doesn't everything just fall apart? I'm not asking because I don't know, I'm asking because maybe you've never considered these things. This life source of beings such as ourselves plays out the role of intelligently comprehending the universe.
When we die, we are dead as vessels. There is energy and this energy contains knowledge. This knowledge is thus transcendent because energy is eternal. This knowledge can be and is passed on. Whether this universal knowledge of physics and science is known or not is what makes us who and what we are and what causes us to evolve.
We are interconnected eternal energy and eternal knowledge divided into an illusion of individual ones.
This is physics, not speculation. This is existence, not delusional subjectivism and mere opinion. This is verbiage and fact, not a fancy name. Rather a somebody that wishes to not be known and a nobody that wishes to be rememberd as such, and only pushing for the truth to be out.
I did not say that there is no consciousness after death, as everything is conscious and that everything Being energy. Simply; we as individuals do not exist. This is the delusion. We are one eternal consciousness; or one eternal interaction and result of infinitely webbed and interdependent, instantaneously synchronized cause and effect.
[edit on 16-5-2008 by LastOutfiniteVoiceEternal]
Originally posted by angst18
To me the OP sounds extremely juvenile in his/her understanding of his/her own spiritual ideas. S/he seems to have just recently found a bit of info on the ideas being expressed without fully assimilating or exploring them. I don't mean to be demeaning - but if the OPs ideas are "The Big Red Dog" , then the Law of One books are "War and Peace".
Originally posted by djerwulfe
reply to post by therevelation
If I chose all the people that I encounter in this life, my "True Self" must be a masochist.
Originally posted by VisionQuest
Very eloquently stated, Angst. I think you hit the nail on the head. I can only echo your sentiments, and recommend The Law of One right alongside you. Starred.