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Originally posted by Alxandro
I think it means that if everything this bill is true, we lose the last of our remaining freedoms and the end of the American way of life, I think it means Obama will go down in History as the worst President ever, the one that destroyed the US.
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
reply to post by JMurdock
Its tied to the UN Millinium act. The cost quoted and the small print on this UN resolution forces us to agree to the UN small arms act which negates our 2nd amendment. It creats UN courts whos rules take away 5th, 4 th, 7th, and 9th amendments. Creats a global carbon tax that our economy cannot afford. We would have no sovereignty left. We would be forced to knuckel under to those wonderfull humanitarians in the UN. MOST of whom would ruin this country for fun. Thats where the problem lies and it is in this bill by Obama.
Originally posted by Drapan
[There's nothing wrong with this. It's time for you (americans) to take your responsibility, I'm not saying you aren't helping people, but it's far from enough.
It's not like you would be the first to do it, even small countries like Sweden, does it and we have 9 million citizens and we're a welfare state (one of the top).
Also, Don't only think of yourselves, If you haven't noticed there's other people on this planet as well.]
Originally posted by vision
[That is a cool thing to say. I think Obama's plans are not only good for us in the US, but could help out the rest of the world , too.
He admits he isn't perfect, but will do his best to steer us in a better direction.
I think thats good, he is honest with us.]
Do you really believe that he is honest with us ? Have you checked to see if his actions back up that opinion, or do you just believe him because of what comes out of his mouth?
If he was "honest" with us don't you think that he would back up what he says ? Take a look at his voting record and see what he really believes, what he really backs up, and what he cops out on by choosing not to vote on at all.
If he was really "honest" with us why would he have a problem with taking the political courage test ? Because he has continuously refused to take it.
Imo if Mr. Obama is elected president he will sell this country out so fast we won't even see it till it's already gone. Goodbye America, Hello NWO & UN.
[If we can afford to help more, we should. Lead by example right?]
Maybe you should do some investigating and see how much we already help out, And how many people in our own country are in dire need.
Yes lead by example, show the rest of the world how to take care of your own first!
Originally posted by yourrolemodel
reply to post by budski
It's too bad we either have to fund a war that isn't helping most of us or we have to fund fuzzy feel good measures that aren't helping most of us. We need to mind our own business. Make jobs in America. Help the homeless and sick. Educate ourselves so we can compete in a global economy. Look to the Statue of Liberty and Jesus for inspiration. Not what neocons say they said but what Lady Liberty and Jesus (read the sermon on the mount-don't listen to what your rulers say) actually said. Vote for a third party. Nader. Barr. Jingozian. Somebody. We need to get rid of the Democrats and the Republicans. If this turns into a class versus class thing the middle class better look out- the rich can buy survival and the poor have safety in numbers.
Originally posted by wytworm
I would have thought it would be easy to materialize concrete evidence that the UN has a Constitution overturning agenda given the plethora of apparently unsubstantiatable claims for the same made on this thread and others. I suppose I was hoping for too much.