Global Poverty Act S.2433

Its not only the money. Its the small print about loosing our sovereignty. Has anyone read what I wrote and others about this bill? The UN is a nightmare for any and all people to live under. These clowns in the UN are NOTHING but the same crooks that have helped screw up ALL of Africa. Since 1960 they have milked the problem to a point that they cannot even begin to fix the problems. If you think for one minute we as a nation should give in to this madness, bend over and kiss your butt and everything you think of as your freedoms away. Those of you who feel that everybody should be able to do what ever they feel like and be anything they want to be are sadly mistaken. These buttheads will regulate every move in your life you will make and tax you for it at the highest rate the feel like! THINK PEOPLE AND READ YOUR DAMNED HISTORY. THIS IS TOTAL BS!!!! No nation can afford this...thats right, NO NATION!!. ONE WORLD WILL NOT WORK WITH HUMAN NATURE WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE!!!!.


Zindo

reply to post by purplemonkey

Do you mean the worst Administration of all time: Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Rove, Baker, etc?

Originally posted by vor78
reply to post by jimbo999

 

No, you're just someone who is trying to demonize a group of people that do not support Obama by suggesting that they only oppose him because they're racists. Its not fooling anyone.

Myself, I have a great many disagreements with the man's policies. That's why I'm not voting for him.


[edit on 14-5-2008 by vor78]

Nope. Wrong. I'm simply asking the question. Why do you find the question so provocative exactly? Is it because it's too close to home? Or something else?

J.

reply to post by Chaoticar


Yes, sound foreign aid programs would be a great help - it's just too bad we've financed tyranny and corruption for so many decades in the third world huh?

But our corporations have certainly benefitted immensely from these policies over the last 70 years - and the country as a whole too. Not that we're the first country to ever do this - heck, the Brits did it for centuries too. But in the end, they had to pay the price for all their fleecing of third world nations...

Now they are a third world nation themselves..

What goes around, comes around huh?

J.

Originally posted by ZindoDoone
Its not only the money. Its the small print about loosing our sovereignty. Has anyone read what I wrote and others about this bill? The UN is a nightmare for any and all people to live under. These clowns in the UN are NOTHING but the same crooks that have helped screw up ALL of Africa. Since 1960 they have milked the problem to a point that they cannot even begin to fix the problems. If you think for one minute we as a nation should give in to this madness, bend over and kiss your butt and everything you think of as your freedoms away. Those of you who feel that everybody should be able to do what ever they feel like and be anything they want to be are sadly mistaken. These buttheads will regulate every move in your life you will make and tax you for it at the highest rate the feel like! THINK PEOPLE AND READ YOUR DAMNED HISTORY. THIS IS TOTAL BS!!!! No nation can afford this...thats right, NO NATION!!. ONE WORLD WILL NOT WORK WITH HUMAN NATURE WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE!!!!.


Zindo

Totally agree Im not sure who your were responding to but in I just brought up the money because we waste a lot of money paying interest to big banks when we dont need to...My America

No FED
No IRS
NO Police the world
No Feed The world
Feed our own
Smoke a joint without worry
Bone a prostitute without worry
Crime fit the punishment as far is if you rape our kill
hmmmmm

I am sick and tired of all you communist losers from other countries telling Americans to give some more of our hard earned tax dollars to the rest of the thieving bastards around the world, so another socialist - communist dictator can fatten his bank account. WE HAVE HAD IT! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. We need to pull out of Iraq, Afganistan, U.N., NATO, NAFTA,GATT and the rest of the rip-off the taxpayer bull# schemes that these worthless con artist in Washington come up with.

TO THE EU, AFRICA, NATO, UN, AND THE REST OF THE WORLD:

WE DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK WE'RE GREEDY.

WE DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK WE SHOULDN'T HAVE FIREARMS.

WE NEED TO LEAVE THE REST OF THE PLANET ALONE AND LET THEM FEND FOR THEMSELVES. Eventually Europe will start ANOTHER world war, maybe we should just let the commie-socialist-muslim dictators around the globe destroy themselves, no more assistance or foreign aid from us.

Goodbye and good riddance.

Originally posted by givemeliberty or beer
I am sick and tired of all you communist losers from other countries telling Americans to give some more of our hard earned tax dollars to the rest of the thieving bastards around the world, so another socialist - communist dictator can fatten his bank account. WE HAVE HAD IT! ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. We need to pull out of Iraq, Afganistan, U.N., NATO, NAFTA,GATT and the rest of the rip-off the taxpayer bull# schemes that these worthless con artist in Washington come up with.

TO THE EU, AFRICA, NATO, UN, AND THE REST OF THE WORLD:

WE DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK WE'RE GREEDY.

WE DON'T CARE IF YOU THINK WE SHOULDN'T HAVE FIREARMS.

WE NEED TO LEAVE THE REST OF THE PLANET ALONE AND LET THEM FEND FOR THEMSELVES. Eventually Europe will start ANOTHER world war, maybe we should just let the commie-socialist-muslim dictators around the globe destroy themselves, no more assistance or foreign aid from us.

Goodbye and good riddance.

Well put and lets get rid of the FED and IRS too and I will completely agree tar for you

reply to post by mybigunit


I probably should have been a bit more concise in who I was talking to. I was talking to those that you addresed in your post. The ones who think the US is to blame for ALL the worlds problems. We, the greedy capitalists who actualy work for the money so much of the world wants. We are to blame because our forefathers where smart enough to give us a good start. The ones being victimised by lazyness with in the voting public who won't do the homework to find out whos going to screw us next. The ones who vote for color, creed, or political expediance without bothering to see whats behind the candidate. Thats who I was taking to. You, my friend where not the target and I appologise if you felt slighted.

Zindo

reply to post by ZindoDoone


while I'm sober can someone tell me how you guys put pictures and things below your member info? you guys have some really cool stuff

Theres info on this in the help section for this web site. Its realy simple.
Oh, and I see we are kindred spirits about our spirits,LOL
Zindo

[edit on 5/15/2008 by ZindoDoone]

Here is a link about United Nations Millennium Declaration

en.wikipedia.org...

It's on the UN website too.

I still haven't found that thread. Sorry, I thought I had it bookmarked.

reply to post by ZindoDoone


Why must there always be a catch, we'll help out poor people in other countries as long as they give up their guns. That idea is as idiotic as trying to tell people not to have sex before marriage.

OK, I just looked up the bill itself (see link below), and I don't see anything about a specific spending number though I can imagine that such a daunting task would require trillions of dollars. However, the language seems to suggest giving people the means to build and sustain their own economies. I don't have a huge problem with that as long as we are taking care of our own first. That's where we, as a country, seem to fall short.

It seems to me that this will be presented as a way to end wars altogether. The reasons would be that we are unlikely to have more war if other countries were self-sustaining, and there would be less fighting in places like Darfur and Burma if they were not fighting over resources (or the lack thereof). While the logic seems sound, unfortunately, it doesn't really bear out because there are plenty of countries that have the means to sustain their economies, yet they are still fighting with each other for a myriad of other reasons.

Both of the senators in my state are supporting this bill, so I will be trying to find out the rationale behind the idea.

S2433

I wonder if the original poster could help me understand how he came to his specific conclusion. After reading the bill I simply don’t understand how he came to that conclusion. But I assume I’m missing something.


Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.
Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.
Sets forth specified reporting requirements. Directs the Secretary of State to designate a coordinator who will have primary responsibility for overseeing and drafting the reports, as well as responsibility for helping to implement recommendations contained in the reports.

www.govtrack.us...

reply to post by JMurdock


Its tied to the UN Millinium act. The cost quoted and the small print on this UN resolution forces us to agree to the UN small arms act which negates our 2nd amendment. It creats UN courts whos rules take away 5th, 4 th, 7th, and 9th amendments. Creats a global carbon tax that our economy cannot afford. We would have no sovereignty left. We would be forced to knuckel under to those wonderfull humanitarians in the UN. MOST of whom would ruin this country for fun. Thats where the problem lies and it is in this bill by Obama.


Zindo

Originally posted by LostNemesis
reply to post by thecandyman

 

What the heck does all this mean??? This bill CANNOT include all of that ?? These might be the last of our "freedoms" we actuall have ?!

Someone clarify. Is this serious? The end of the "American way", as we know it?

I think it means that if everything this bill is true, we lose the last of our remaining freedoms and the end of the American way of life, I think it means Obama will go down in History as the worst President ever, the one that destroyed the US.

reply to post by budski


what about the citizens who cant pay as much as u do.. r they less equal.. how about those who cant work due to car accidents.. or malpractice, or messed up water supplies that messed up their kids.. lead and mercury contaminated yards and homes.... or did i miss the thrust of u'r statement??

Yeah keep fighting over the illusion of choice. Theyve got you right where they want you.. Staring at each other.

Meanwhile behind the scences the real rich people...who are not listed in Forbes Fortune 400..(.anybody ever see rockefeller there?) , are laughing at you.

They do what they want. As long as u dont see who to blame..

democrats, republicans...all rich people who really know nothing about the flow of life and energy. Seriously, i read guys who blow me away with their wisdom constantly...but whatever we do..dont give them power.

Star Wars shows us that at a galactic level the leaders would be meditaive and wise.
they all suck off corporate elite. So our best bet is to vote for the guy who will most likely turn on them if the # hits the fan. Have a realization that its better to die and go down as a hero than go out as a guilty spineless chump.

Originally posted by purplemonkey
reply to post by ZindoDoone

 

doesn't it s--- you when your leaders are handing out bucket loads of money to other countries when your own country is in dire need of those same funds? That is as good as treason!

Its not like our current leaders aren't diverting money from the US now, the diff is they are just pocketing it...I guess globalization is ok when it falls in the favor of 'FREE' trade, but not when it favors the destitute...

Global Poverty Act of 2007 - Directs the President, through the Secretary of State, to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the U.S. foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.

Requires the strategy to contain specific and measurable goals and to consist of specified components, including: (1) continued investment or involvement in existing U.S. initiatives related to international poverty reduction and trade preference programs for developing countries; (2) improving the effectiveness of development assistance and making available additional overall United States assistance levels as appropriate; (3) enhancing and expanding debt relief as appropriate; (4) mobilizing and leveraging the participation of businesses and public-private partnerships; (5) coordinating the goal of poverty reduction with other internationally recognized Millennium Development Goals; and (6) integrating principles of sustainable development and entrepreneurship into policies and programs.

Sounds like the programs are already out there. Anyone see a problem with continuing them or improving them? Look! Measurable benchmarks! Hmmmm now where else do we need those...