reply to post by Osiris1953
My friend, I agree in what you saw. However, your scope is short sided. It is not just in Religion where this occurs, nor is it only in Religion
where this should be changed.
To many people confuse Discuss with Debate (as do I, being a debator previously). People enjoy being right, there are few joys greater than having
one say 'Uncle'... whether on the play ground or in a forum. The "I Am Right!" and the "I Win!" are hard to avoid.
I love being proven wrong because it allows me to learn, I love more being right in the first place because it gives me confidence in my findings
when I have no others to lean on. Most poeple adore the latter, care naught for the first.
And Debate, as well, is well and good. It's how one approaches the Debate, how one joins and adds to the Debate. Basically, in all manners of
discussion, it is how one behaves themself.
To many people refuse to agree to disagree. This solves much. Stating "I have seen your side, and though logic is to be found I am simply not
convinced. Nor do I have to be. I will continue with my ideas, now more founded due to the information you have given. I thank you for further
educating me, even as we continue to disagree." How perfect a world if every disagreance ended thusly.
After all, Mary Magdaline was a woman of the street. After all, Mary Magdaline was the wife of Jesus. After all, the Virgin Mary gave birth to Jesus
without conception. After all, it is scientifically impossible to give birth without being impregnated. The Ark is lost. The Ark is hidden. The
Pyramids are tombs. The Pyramids are maps to be read from the sky.
So many things, so many views, so much information and so many people who care intensley about the discussions. So much truth to be shared, sadly
sometimes it is forced.
Remember, on a board like this (not a disparaging remark, I have been loyal to ATS for years though this newer name has much less involvement... how
do I get my Brrexkl back??) you will find people who go well beyond average. I mean that with great respect, as well. For it takes something more to
go beyond with a cause. There are people here, who if not for the Internet being between them and an advasary, would give there life (or possibly take
anothers) to further their cause. And it's much healthier for them to vent here than to take it to a physical level out there. True Die Hard
Fanatics who are more engrossed in such issues than many of us who just fancy the adventure and idea of some of these great conspiricies and
An example. If I merely am interested in the idea of some ancient and great Illumanati then I will only feel a certain amount of gusto in
researching and defending or accussing such an organization. However, one who has family from the Bavarian branch, or feel they have a kinship from an
even older Illumanati, my very well take things very offensive. They feel on another level than the average.
If one is intense in ones Religion, then they will convey more strongly. Sometimes it is done in a wrong manner. Right cause, wrong effect.
This is how things are when people have such intense feelings on such ideals. This means the average poster must be more aware and approach things,
though openly and inquisitively, more respectfully.
After all, a curious reader wanting to find out more might say "Why do Freemasons let the Illumanati control them?" Obviously an active Mason
would take this as an affront, and after having been attacked many times previous may not realize the poster is uneducated and requesting education.
This can lead to attacking some one for merely being uneducated on a topic (uncalled for) because of a reflex from defending himself numerous times
from rants and burns (also uncalled for) and leading the discussion nowhere.
Don't assume. Ask. Politely.